I can see Fox news and Limbaugh’s clown ass running with this story and they would be right in my opinion.
You want to know what’s also American; quite arguably more so?
Wearing the good old Red, White, and Blue to school, is.
Ultimately, the point underlying this conversation is: “How in the hell does an American school kick kids out of class for wearing U.S. colors, on a Mexican holiday?”
Everything else is hyperbole pointing out this absurdity.
Ninjas?
Do you mean Niggaz? If so yes, every city in California has a large hispanic population. Oakland which has a large population of Blacks is being caught by the Hispanics in size.
If you see Blacks, you will see Mexicans somewhere around there. South Central Los Angeles has plenty of Mexicans & Blacks, whereas East Lost Angeles doesn’t have as many Blacks but lots of Mexicans.
@jabhadouken.
Firmly disagree, wearing the colours to send a message of intolerance isn’t any kind of american I support. Denying the fact that mexican culture is a huge part of american culture, isn’t an american value I’m aware of. All of our holidays and cultures contribute to what ‘american’ is. Sorry you can’t see that.
as I’ve said, I don’t support the actions taken against their students, but I definitely don’t support the kind of divisive bullshit they tried to start either.
Precisely; intolerance abounds.
Especially amongst those who complained, and got the kids tossed out of school.
Everyone is part of the Red, White, and Blue here - asian, blacks, hispanics, and whites.
Why is that so hard to for you to see?
and they’re trying to exclude the hispanic part of that, something you seem content ignoring? It just seems pretty obvious to me that these kids were using the american flag, not as a symbol of pride, but as one of intolerance. IMO that’s just disgraceful behaviour, after all this, I don’t see where else we can really take this discussion, because it seems like the trenches are getting pretty deep here.
Wherein did they exclude the hispanics?
I must have missed that.
Seriously - back that up.
By your words, you are excluding the hispanics from the Red, White, and Blue - which represent the United States of America i.e. all U.S. Americans.
Where’s their Freedom of Speech? Don’t they have a right to wear their T-Shirts, which are clearly non-offensive?
Oh that’s right, Freedom of Speech and puclic display is only used when it’s to bash “others we don’t like” over the head with.
I wonder if they’ll get $250,000 and a UN prize?
Don’t you fucking try to pin that on me, that’s going way too far, and way too personal for the sake of a fucking discussion.
What I said was that I feel they’re using the American flag as a symbol to suggest that what the hispanic students are doing, isn’t american, and that the hispanic students aren’t being ‘american’. Which I obviously disagree with, almost all of my points being centred around the fact that hispanic culture IS a part of american culture.
freedom of speech doesnt apply to schools. most schools have a policy if u are wearing something that is “distracting” to other students that they must take it off…this applys to crazy hair colors/hair colors…ie a middle school white kid wit cornrows, as well as clothing.
I didn’t say it - you did.
I’m not trying to pin anything on you.
Own up to either that (which I don’t believe to be the case btw, man), or else own up to the fact that the facts of the case don’t back your position of “wrong-doing” to Mexican-Americans.
Can you not see them wearing the shirts as a sign of solidarity - all Americans as American, on Cinco de Mayo as well as any other day?
It seems that the immediate reaction you had was as you said “a feeling”, and not necessarily representative of the facts.
To tell those kids that they couldn’t wear those shirts on Cinco de Mayo… that is discriminatory - if not wholesale racist.
You see, nobody told the Cinco celebrators that they had to stop - that they weren’t Americans with all the freedom of expression that brings, that they were somehow racist against a nationality.
Nope - this was saved for a select few of those students who didn’t fall within those PC fabricated parameters.
So that’s okay, right?
No; fuck that nonsense.
The school in question is about 15 minutes away from my house and I’m very familiar with it. The kids that go to that school are notorious for shit like this, because the town as a whole is very redneck. The kids who pulled this off are lucky that they got sent home because the Mexican kids could easily put a hurting on them, I’ve seen some brutal shit go down at that school.
The sad thing is that the school really can’t win in a situation like that. They either send the kids home and have the parents complain about unfair treatment or they let the kids stay and when they get stabbed (which has happened before), have the parents complain about the school not being safe enough.
I also think it’s hilarious that white kids are hating on Cinco De Mayo, when it was made into a national holiday by white people.
I didn’t say it - you did.
I’m not trying to pin anything on you.
Own up to either that (which I don’t believe to be the case btw, man), or else own up to the fact that the facts of the case don’t back your position of “wrong-doing” to Mexican-Americans.
Can you not see them wearing the shirts as a sign of solidarity - all Americans as American, on Cinco de Mayo as well as any other day?
It seems that the immediate reaction you had was as you said “a feeling”, and not necessarily representative of the facts.
To tell those kids that they couldn’t wear those shirts on Cinco de Mayo… that is discriminatory - if not wholesale racist.
You see, nobody told the Cinco celebrators that they had to stop - that they weren’t Americans with all the freedom of expression that brings, that they were somehow racist against a nationality.
Nope - this was saved for a select few of those students who didn’t fall within those PC fabricated parameters.
So that’s okay, right?
No; fuck that nonsense.
Anyone who would stab someone else over wearing the U.S. colors, needs to seriously get the fuck out of the U.S. right now.
Actually, anyone with such a disposition really isn’t suited for life, period.
weird when i went to high school there were always peeps wore mexican flag shirts on 4th of July almost all 4 years. I guess it was alowed because no one there made a fuss about it.
I’ve repeated at least four different times that I don’t agree with the course of action taken against the students, but there is no way you can get me (and most of the thread) to believe that these students wore the shirts as a sign of american solidarity, inclusive of hispanics, most because I don’t believe in self-deception. The kid in the video said that the hispanic principal was siding with the hispanic students, he clearly believes it’s an us vs them issue, so why should I believe anything else of him?
To be honest, MOST people tend not to make a fuss about anything, unless it’s politically/financially motivated and the media picks up on it and has a field day.
You’d be surprised at just how much stuff is blacklisted, stopped or denied or made illegal even though the one expressing themselves has a “right to do so”, i.e. Freedom of speech.
Precisely… you’ve already made up your mind. Imagine that. I’ll wager your mind was made up before entering the thread - but*** I’m*** willing to cede that this is a presumption on my part, and that I could be wrong.
He said that after he was kicked out, man.
It’s rather clear what the principal’s position was - that they were treading on the hispanic students.
How should he have worded it, and still have it be coherent?
all white people are the same