N doesnt do the most damage. Im almost positive it goes S > K > N > C > P > A
that old “damage tier” chart is wrong. whichever srk staff tested it had it on infinite meter
only kgroove gets a damage bonus from supers, and it’s only 10%. it’s pretty negligible, unless it’s a one-hit super that counter hits (blanka level 3)
Don’t the S supers the 5% red-life bonus, 15% full meter bonus, or 20.7% combined bonus?
I’ll do a serious test of all the damage bonuses and defense bonuses later today.
It’s true.
Just tested (infinite meter), Joe’s Double Cyclone Super against P-groove (no defense boost):
P: 6000 (no boost)
C: 6300 (+5%)
K: 6600 (+10%)
N: 7200 (+20%)
S: 7236 (+20.75%, +5% * +15%)
S > N > K > C > P
No damage boost when not infinite meter, so Buktooth is right. S gets +5%, K +10%, that’s it.
Groove Damage Bonuses
Alright, so I did thorough testing of all the grooves in training mode today. I tested under Normal meter.
Damage Bonuses:
tested with R2 Sagat against R2-A-Blanka. S.Fierce - 1600, Fierce Fireball - 1000, Lvl1 & Lvl3 Tiger Shot - 2500 & 5200
C-Groove
0 Bars/Empty Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - N/A
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
1 Bar
[LIST]
Normal - 1616 - +1%
Special - 1010 - +1%
Lvl 1 Super - 2500 - +0%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
2 Bars
[LIST]
Normal - 1632 - +2%
Special - 1020 - +2%
Lvl 1 Super - 2525 - +1%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
3 Bars/Full Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1680 - +5%
Special - 1050 - +5%
Lvl 1 Super - 2525 - +2%
Lvl 3 Super - 5200 - +0%
[/LIST]
NOTE: After looking over the supers, C-groove does gain a damage bonus to supers, based on the amount of meter left after doing the super.
A-Groove
0 Bars/Empty Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
1 Bar
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - 2500 - +0%
[/LIST]
2 Bars/Full Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - 2500 - +0%
[/LIST]
Custom Combo
[LIST]
Normal - 1152 - -28%
Special - 720 - -28%
Lvl 1 Super - 2000 - -20%
[/LIST]
NOTE: Damage Noted in Custom Combo was always first hit of combo, thus further hits may do less damage do to damage scaling.
P-Groove
0 Bars/Empty Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
1 Bar/Full Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 3 Super - 5200 - +0%
[/LIST]
S-Groove
0 Bars/Empty Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - N/A
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
1 Bar/Full Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1840 - +15%
Special - 1150 - +15%
Lvl 1 Super - 2500 - +0%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
Red Life
[LIST]
Normal - 1680 - +5%
Special - 1050 - +5%
Lvl 1 Super - 2625 - +5%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
Red Life & Full Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1932 - +20.7%
Special - 1207 - +20.7%
Lvl 1 Super - N/A
Lvl 3 Super - 5460 - +5%
[/LIST]
N-Groove
0 Stocks/Empty Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - N/A
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
1 Stock
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - 2500 - +0%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
2 Stocks
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - 2500 - +0%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
3 Stocks/Full Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 1 Super - 2500 - +0%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
Max Mode
[LIST]
Normal - 1920 - +20%
Special - 1200 - +20%
Lvl 1 Super - N/A
Lvl 3 Super - 5200 - +0%
[/LIST]
K-Groove
Empty Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 1600 - +0%
Special - 1000 - +0%
Lvl 3 Super - N/A
[/LIST]
Raged/Full Meter
[LIST]
Normal - 2160 - +35%
Special - 1300 - +30%
Lvl 3 Super - 5720 - +10%
[/LIST]
So C, S, & K gain bonuses to Supers. A & P gain no bonuses at all.
Oh, and I tested Defense bonuses too. That list is really boring. Only K-groove gains a bonus and only while Raged. So as long as you don’t test against K, it doesn’t matter what the opponent’s groove is.
K - -12.5% damage
Are you sure about that? I am pretty sure N gains some defensive bonus while in “max mode”. C and S should also gain some defensive bonus when they have meter.
Unless it is only against specials or supers, there are no defensive bonuses. Only K reduced the power of a Sagat s.fierce.