Psycho Power J - Well, I applaud you for the speedy response, LOL! :tup: I get your reasoning, at least. Yeah, my statement that psyched you out was implying Demitri there, not saying he could destroy a planet. I still feel he will obliterate the SFers. That’s just me.
She didn’t hold back versus Sol, though. Her power took over and he still beat her. Although in the alternate timeline she did become the gear leader after Johnny and Justice were killed in the Holy Wars. So, with enough time and under the right circumstances she has the potential to be as strong or stronger. As of now, though, she’s with the Jellyfish pirates and her power has been checked. (GGX2 storymode ending)
http://thegearproject.org/projects/timeline.html
PS: I see where Solaria shows up, as well. I wish I could find the rest of that scanlation.
Edit: @Psycho Power J; 2181
The Blackard incident (Lightning the Argent) occurs, and a Gear with free will known as Solaria is created by the company. However, Ky stops their plan of using her as a command-type Gear, and she lives peacefully as a human under the auspices of the Police force.
Guilty Gear Isuka has no story and is stated to have never happened in the offical storyline. Just like a Versus game.
Solaria isn’t in Isuka, so far she’s only in the timeline, that I can see.
A.B.A. is the new character created just for Isuka, along with the boss Leo. Neither of which, as of yet, have anything to do with the GGX universe.
Speaking of which, do characters like Demitri and Zabel even have souls for the demons in hell to attack once the Shun Goku Satsu is performed?
Well, that’s true enough. He’s Class A. Most of the SFers are weaker than him, so it’s not inconceivable that he would dominate over most of them.
If I follow Japanese spiritual beliefs correctly, anything has a possibility of having a soul, even inanimate objects. What should be taken into account is how the Shun Goku Satsu would affect something with a radically different spiritual state like demons and the undead.
Apathy-Inc: Thanks for the info. :tup:
Hmmm. Not sure how it varies from region to region, but the overall belief with Ki/Chi is that humans have it, animals don’t, or it’s generally not the same thing. And then there are those that extend it to animals not having souls since they have no Ki, Auras, Ki and such are human being things. But then it gets metaphysical, what exactly is a soul, and what not. Anyway, I guess the demons would have to have something to attack in CFE’s case fir example, perhaps a Dark Soul of sorts. I’d say Demitri would walk away from it though either way since he survived a fight with Belail and all.
Other story lines.
Well as for as human not holding there own.
Punisher class: Human
Punisher kills everything. If it bleeds, he can kill it.
Batman class: Human
Batman is the same way.
Im thinking the SFhumans would go along the same lines. Knowing there not as strong. They would give alot of thought before going into battle.
Like Akuma jumping out from behind a tree and RD that ass.
Both use weapons/technology. SFers don’t, let’s say for the most part. Punisher’s gotten punked a few times, mainly by Spider-Man, once Wolverine beat the tar out of Punisher. Slade Wilson kicked Batman’s Ass too. In the comics Bats is not the “I own everyone’s behind” you see in the cartoons and movies. He’s more like the guy who gets his ribs broken, a lot. He can still take a lot of people down though, with technology that is.
SFers don’t strategise in the same way to take down foes, for the most part. Punisher, well, more Batman will figure out how to take you down. If he has to fight Superman, he’ll get Kryptonite and so on. Even Vega(cape) of Shadowloo doesn’t strategise this way, he’ll go right up to you and try to kick your Ass. Goes with being in a Fighting Game and such.
And I guess your joking, but Gouki wouldn’t jump a DSer from behind a tree. No honor in it. Think of Goku sneak attacking someone. Not their style.
the land animal with the largest bite force is the Croc, it was a bite of 3000 pounds of pressure per square inch.
Sun’s Core is around 15,000 celcius and Absolute Zero is -273 celcius
So it’s a question of how hard Gallion can bite or How hot or How cold Gill can make his fire or ice.
Also the Tiger Shot is supposed to feel like getting mauled by a tiger, but if you add in 5 more hits then it wouldn’t feel like just one tiger mauling you it would Feel more like 6 tigers Mauling you at the same time.
One tiger has a bite force of 1,000 pounds of pressure per square inch so if you add 5 more Tigers that would equal to having 6,000 pounds of pressure tearing at you body.
Plus this does count the force they can put behind their paws.
Now for Gallion to be able to bite off Akuma’s Arm he must create Really Powerful force in his bite since Akuma trains in deep ocean which has pressures that will crush 99% of military submarines like eggshells
The Shinka 3000 is not a ordinary military submarine it’s a submersible / Mini submarine designed for deep ocean travel.
By the way here’s one way Ryu can beat Magneto just give him Wolverine’s jobber aura. What the heck just give him Animated TT Robin’s jobber aura and watch him exposed secret weakness Mags never knew he had.
Here’s the thing Punisher use guns and such to take down animals Most Sfers like Zanigef just use their barehands.
The only way Wolverine can beat Magneto is whenever his powers were shut off, on Genosha when he stabbed him in the stomach and the ‘fake’ Magneto in New York who he decapitated who was also without powers. Anyone can beat Magneto without powers. With powers Mags removed his Adamantium skeleton in a fit of rage. Wolverine almost died from the experience, but Jean Grey kept his mind in one piece, from slipping to the other side from shock. I’m sure in X-Men vs. SF land Hadou = Magnetic powers or something. I have an idea for how Ryu can beat Magneto for my fan fic, but… I’ll keep it under my hat for now.
EDIT: What’s the point of these shameless plugs for my terribly written fic without a link. Well, at the very least you can take my Fic as if I was writing a CFE Fan Fic, I wouldn’t have Demitri and Jedah kill everybody even if that’s how I think it would go down realistically, with Warzard characters next to impossible to rate anyways -
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69537&page=1
Yeah that is one of the big problems with GG. There’s really so much “potentially” powerful characters such as Kliff, Dizzy (who’s 3), Sol, The Man etc. It’s pretty aggrivating sometimes when you don’t know the extent of their powers when they are stuck in a certain situation that doesn’t allow them to fully realize their potential.
Ah well,
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Sano Don’t mock the power of Wolverine 's jobber aura. his jobber aura powers have made him be able to cut through Onslaught’s force field with his bone claws
jobber aura ( is a Aura that comes into play when the comic character does something that is blatantly impossible for his abilities.)
Wolverine jobber aura happens once in a full blue moon and here’s a list of all of Wovlverin’s jobber aura feats
1 During the Onslaught Saga ( he Cuts through onslaught’s force field with his bone claws)
2 His jobber aura help him survived being hit by a nuke.
3 His jobber aura allow him to survived being hurling into the sun.
Here are the effects of Wolverine’s jobber aura has on his foes
- Drops there IQ 100 points and makes them forget what powers they have.
Now Here’s how Wolvie’s jobber aura works
No matter whom he is fighting it will always be a close fight with him narrowly pulling out a victory.
ATT Robin’s jobber aura effects
1 weak spots mysteriously appear on the villains when he shows up.
2 allows him to mysterously hit harder than a 30 ton brick
3 opponents will stop moving in his presense
oh by the way Sano Mags wasn’t jobbing to Wolvie in that Issue where he rips out his skeleton. Now if he did Job to Wolvie in that issuse it would be more like this.
Mags rips out Wolve’s skeleton but he magically grows a new one in one second then proceeds to cut through Mags force field and slash him in half.
what I just wrote is a example of jobber aura.
I’ve never kept up with the GG power rating, but isn’t Slayer almost as strong as Sol?
In his story, it notes that he hasn’t fought anyone in like a thousand years that could keep up with him, and even in the game, you can tell that he’s not really trying hard with his moves (his KO stance, his casual blocking, etc)
I have no regard for Jobber Aura! That’s like Anime and Manga where people defeat Gods and people way stronger than they are because they believe in the power of their friends!
Thanks for explaining it, though. Don’t think in that scenario Wolvie could grow Adamantium. In that scenario, Wolvie’s blood wrenching scream would make Mags think of the holocaust, distract him while Wolvie rolls over on the guy with Adamantium sticking out and kills him, and everyone stops buying X-Men for pulling that crap.
Yeah I was joking. I would still like to see Gouki sneaking more people.
There’s an “offical” term for this in writing too.
It’s called “The idiot plot”.
Slayer is strong because he’s a vampire. He’s a bit lacking in the ability department, although when you’re an immortal super-strong vampire, you don’t really need to HAVE ability. (I mean, he thinks the Luigi jump is a valid attack!) Sol, I-No and Dizzy have too-good power, too-good ability, too-good stamina (I-No can’t even get cut and she’s just a human!)
Slayer is as powerful if not more powerful than all the others as of GGX2.
Dizzy especially because she had to use her full power just to hurt him. Slayer is also an ‘old one’, which earned him considerable admirration and respect from That Man. Who spoke to him in a very polite manner.
I-No was able to survive a direct fight with Dizzy while she was intent on killing her.
As well as walk away after going toe to toe with Sol-Badguy.
No one knows what I-No really is yet, or weither or not she gained her power through black tech or forbidden magics (like Millia and Zato). However, she is, in fact, not a gear. So for now, she’s presumed to be human.
It’s also worth noting that she can time travel at will and erase people’s memories.
The more story and evidence I find, the more it appears that Dizzy is a tier 2. She has the potential to be the strongest, however the circumstances now suggest that she may never reach that level.
Kliff is dead. At best he could go toe to toe with Justice without a decided winner. I think they fought somewhere around 17 times and always a stalemate. (Holy War)
Justice killed him in Guilty Gear after Kliff went through numerous opponents and even defeated Testament. (beat him, didn’t kill him) So he really was worn out by the time he got to Justice.
It’s also noted that Testament revived Justice for Kliff, as a gift, so that his step-father could be the hero and finally defeat the monster.
Oops!
I didn’t know that about Dizzy vs. Slayer…
That makes me reconsider things. Probably the reason I put Slayer at tier 2 is because he has no real interest in fighting. If he did, he’d probably stomp all over everyone else for free, I’m sure (although Sol is a question mark).
Meh, Orochi will own them all.
Too bad Darkseid is always writing with PIS (plot induce stupidity) just to make Superman look better.
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don’t use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks.