Correct, Sagat still waits for his match with Ryu.
Capcom could bring back Vega of course, but they’d be pulling a complete 360 if they do. Before Zero 3 came out, Vega was stated to have survived SF2 and recuperating during SF3. After Zero 3 appeared, he was declared as offed for good.
So…if all we had was one game, SFII from the 90s, no SFA…no Akuma…who would’ve won? lol…bad question in the middle of nowhere. I’m guessing, with that game alone, that would be insufficent?
Hmm…I wonder how Udon will do the SFII tournament…if Chun Li and Guile both come up but get defeated by Bison (but I guess they could be declared winners since they fought against him) but Akuma kills Bison, than all in all, they could just be winners by default? Sometimes I wonder who’s stronger…Chun Li or Guile…
I’d say Guile. Women, by default are slightly weaker than men and with rage fueling him I don’t think beating Bison would’ve been that big of a deal.
Personally, I think either Ryu, Chun-Li, or Guile earned the right to face M. Bison in the final match. It’s hard to say whether or not an actual fight with M. Bison took place 'CuZ AAC isn’t Very specific concerning what point during the match Gouki showed up and killed M. Bison.
Hasn’t it been already stated Akuma/Gouki was not entered in the SFII tournament? His killing of Bison is moot, as he wasn’t entered in the tournament.
He doesn’t have to have been enrolled to have killed him.
Ryu is void. It is specifically/canonically stated that after Ken beat Ryu he married Eliza. We can see now that not only is he married but he’s had a son. I’m kinda thinking that Guile/Chun Li defeated Bison before he was murked.
According to Canon Guile was the only fighter to make it to the finals against Bison. Before the match started Akuma came in…
So there is no official SF2 winner. SF1 winner was Ryu by beating Sagat with his Evil incarnation (Dark Hadou)…I still don’t see why Ryu is viewed as a main character in SF like Liu Kanf from MK…Guile was the main “hero” until the Akuma thing. Also, I don’t know who won SF3, maybe Alex or someone like that. Would be cool if Gill came back along with Bison(dictator) and Sagat.
Vega(Bison) or whatever you wanna call him made his return in the CVS series. I know CVS is not canon but why would Capcom make him better in CVS and more like his SF2 days as opposed to the Alpha series. I think Capcom thought about bringing him back.
someone told me ryu boned elena, and out came sean… is this true???
Yes, Elena, a high school girl, was able to give birth to Sean, a high school boy. It all makes sense, now.
We’re not completely certain on who made it to Vega (just that Guile is the most likely due to deepest motive), nor when Gouki jumped in for the kill.
Only in Japan is Ryu viewed as officially “the main character” for SF, the Zero series, and SF2 because he’s whom the storyline revolves around the most. Capcom USA has never taken such an “official” stand, but for SF2 they leaned toward Guile because he’s with the deepest links to SF2’s main antagonist. Alex did win SF3.
You call him one or the other to keep the confusion down; since you start with “Akuma”, call him Bison. As for Capcom making him better in versus series because they thought to resurrect him, doubtful. His bio’s with SF2 data, just as if he was snatched from SF2’s timeline period and placed into the new crossover universe just like everyone else with their respective games and bios.
I’m gonna hate it for that guy when he finds out about the tooth fairy. :shake:
I think Vega (M. Bison) is originally from Columbia in the SF storyline. Columbia has most of the big crime/drug cartels, etc. Vega is a spanish name. So if they ever have SF4 and bring back Vega (M. Bison) you will probably be fighting him at his stage in Columbia.
Interesting theory. His name however comes from Arabic origins rather than Spanish.
Really? Arabic? Now that would be a twist…in todays world…Vega(Bison) being a Muslim extremist?..
Got these from the web:
Vega - Arabic - The falling star.
Sagat - First name of Sagat Petchyindee, legendary Muay Thai fighter with a fighting history equalled by no other man. Sagat had a grand total of 317 matches throughout his career and losing very few of them. He also happened to influence a certain videogame…
Yep, that’s the reference Capcom used.
Interesting Sagat info.:tup:
How about Goutetsu as a boss character in SF4? They also could say that Goutetsu did not die…Just look at Tekken 5 with Jinpachi. how old is Jinpachi? 100+???
If this movie is canon
then Gouki (Akuma) is Ryu’s father!!!
There are 3 ways to interpret that movie.
Fuka is Gouki and Sayaka’s daughter. Fuka and Sayaka daughter had the same exact seiyuu (voice actor) in the Japanese version, aside from looking nearly identical.
Ryu is Gouki and Sayaka’s son.
Fuka is Gouken and Sayaka’s daughter. Vasili10 has a good explanation for this possibility, since he’s active on this thread I’ll leave that up to him.
Seems like they don’t outright say in typical anime fashion, “What do you think? It’s up to the viewer to decide.” Even the seiyuus on the DVD interview were confused by the entire thing.
In none of the games, All About books, SF Eternal or anything like that Capcom has never said that Gouki is Ryu’s father. Take it as you will.
Goutetsu as a SF4 boss character would be even less likely than Gouken; we don’t know how the latter died, the former was murdered by the shungokusatsu, bloodied corpse and all.
Alpha Generations like all other animes, comics, and mangas is not canon. The SF2 Animated Movie comes the closest to canon status and it still isn’t.
I don’t want Goutetsu or Gouken returning in a canon sequel. However, something like Capcom vs. SNK 3 or Capcom Fighting Jam 2, I would like to see them in.