Street Fighter 3rd strike: Online edition

in my opinion, all they really need to do is make this game run as smooth as it can online with out having lag as possible. of course there is going to be lag due to the fact that you’re playing online but as far as re balancing and graphical improvements, no because if they changed any of the mechanics then it wouldn’t be the same game, it would be a different rendition.

different modes along with training mode is expected but we can only hope that since they’re taking their time with this, it has to prove up to expectations

I don’t get the correlation; how is not rebalancing the game going to introduce people to the parrying system? If players don’t want to learn how to parry, they are not, not matter how balanced or unbalanced the game is. I think there is plenty of evidence out there that game developers are never going to be able to force players to play the game the ‘right’ way, so I think I’m missing your point.

Mostly because the ps3 has all sorts of weird issues and it seems no one can properly make it function correctly. but if there are no issues for those, that definitely bodes well.

jedpossum where do you get this info? Also, no one mentioned whether it’s capcom or backbone because it’s mostly irrelevant. we refer to capcom since they’re the producer and ultimately have the say on everything involved. So while backbone may be doing the actual work, they aren’t directing things.

Assuming there’s no emulation that’s good, although whether they can make it run as the machines do is just as questionable.

well it’ll release before sfxt i’m sure. i think he’s just saying a bunch of people will surely buy it and check it out and in doing so see what parry is just by playing it. then sfxt will come along and parry won’t seem like some weird mechanic but just a new iteration of something from a previous sf title. i don’t think he’s being as literal as you’re taking it.

Right now, the fact that they said “no rebalance” is awesomeeeee. All I need now is for the timing offline to be arcade perfect then I’ll bet set. Everything else will be bells and whistles.

Unrelated but has anyone played the Eventhubs endorsed Arclive? 3rd Strike is running on it.

It runs better than GGPO but mostly Chinese are on there.

I’ve played on both extensively, mostly against friends. Some people I get a better connection with via Arclive. Some with GGPO. Just depends.

Arclive has stat tracking though, I’m a sucker for stat tracking.

2DF was the best.
lagfree arcade versus

thats all i need

Yup.

For me, GGPO SuperCade and ArcLive all run the same it just depends on who I’m playing. It’s just that ArcLive has stuff like friends lists and W/L records being counted which is cool.

@Louiscipher
There are a lot of Chinese players but 3s Zone 5 has a lot of American and some European players.

You keep bringing that(sfvt parries) up which leads me to believe that you know something we don’t. Do you know something we don’t? Why does that the prospect of parries in that game sound so appealing to you?

For some reason, 3s on ArcLive has a ridiculous amount of lag for me… it’s completely unplayable. Maybe I was just playing against people out-of-country? But I do recall playing someone with a low ping and it still being really bad.

It seemed to be that my computer couldn’t handle it rather than the connection… which is silly, because I run GGPO and some MMOs without any graphical/lag issues.

Why is 3S so godlike?

Because everything else looks like shit in comparison.

:rofl:
I just think this game has a hidden agenda.
They released a game on XBL to introduce people to the systems
HDR for SF4 and MVC2 for MVC3

I just find it interesting that we are getting 3sOe before SFvsTekken which is the next big release.
Thats why I keep saying that, and think about it, what SF system can be good for Tekken chars other than parry.

ditto. tried it several months ago with an EC player and i couldn’t do anything. the rollbacks are so severe to the point of hilarity and the sound effects will play multiple times when the lag gets bad. zone 5 didn’t have anybody back then either. also the anime avatars and overall interface are gross.

hope they have something to say on the 12th because it’s been 8 months of nothing but “we are developing it now, plz be patient <cute emoticon>.”

3S presents (more than any other fg) the idea and strength of implications.
since we both can attack and also be able to nullify our opponent’s attack
each motion carries a lot more weight to it.

people try to brush 3S as chun paper scissors and although its similar at the very basic level they fail to understand that 3S factors in time. a stutter, a pause, a step can make your ‘read’ miss.

you cant just go okay ken, downparry his c.mk and win. you’re not playing a robot.
you’re playing a person. a person who makes mistakes, has habits, patterns and moods.
person X’s gouki can play completely different then person Y’s gouki and it can also play different then person X’s gouki on a different day/time whatever.

people are so sensitive about 3S lag because every frame counts.
this is not sf4 where i crouch tech untill i get two lks and then go off into a combo.
every frame and pixel matters.

because
you never really just press buttons in 3S
every little twitch, roundhouse, step, whiff, jump, throw, etc has a motive behind it.

but what the fuck do i know.
i suck

I think 3S is a really good game,granted I have only played PS2 version. Don’t know why it 3S gets so much heat.

For MvC2, they used the DC version since it was being developed by Backbone, who already had experiencing porting a DC game to modern consoles since they did HDR. For 3SOE however which I believe isn’t being worked on by Backbone, it’ll probably be easier for them to run an emulator since their current GGPO implementation is simply a CPS emulator (Sven confirmed as much on Unity). Also, graphic filters can be done on an emulator, most modern emulators on PC already do that shit.

Because scrubs don’t like parrying and the new characters. That’s basically it.

cant wait for this game. rebalanced or not. hd or not. all i ask for is a great netcode and ill be online all day and night