Or they can just be like Hey I’m not interested in this raffle stuff but games are dope and I wanna play games or hey I’m interested in this raffle stuff and games to? Man the raffle is just a bonus lemme get the games. This is some high concept stuff here so it’s no wonder it went over your head.
Jason24cf, unless your company is a registered non-profit organization your raffle is still illegal. This puts your brand and all your players in a poor position. The law is the law whether we agree with it or not. You don’t commit obvious illegal activity openly on the net. You create a very simple open and shut case against you.
Exactly as Athrex mentions. You can sugarcoat it all you want, but in the end it’s still A) illegal and B) shady as hell.
Finally caught up on this thread, all the hypothetical situations being concocted to justify raffles crack me up. I could come up with some equally ludicrous scenarios that say just the opposite and are backed up with just as little reality.
I’ve been thinking this for a *long *time now.
You know all the guys that do the raffles make a killing on them too. They “give” away something they get for free and hundreds of people give them 5+ dollars.
Even if they have paid for the sticks, they’re still making a lot more than what they paid for them. (du’h I know - else they wouldn’t do it)
The thing I find funny and sad at the same time is the followers of known raffle organisers who say things like “oh look Fanatiq is so good. He’s raffling off stuff for us out of the goodness of his hear!” - wake up and smell the roses. He’s doing it to make a bunch of cash off y’all.
You also know it’s mad lucrative when people like Fanatiq spend a fair sum on lottery tickets of their own to try and win items they can raffle off again.
Secondly, who’s to say anyone ever gets a “prize”? Because it’s the internet you can scam really easily and rarely does anyone follow up if there was a winner and if they do it’s easy for the raffle organiser to blag anything.
I believe it’s just a matter of time before this practice will result in someone getting “hurt”.
As the OP said, it’s just a really bad look for the community. Makes us look really seedy and shady.
Just a thought, maybe if the winners of tournaments didn’t win sticks (which they obviously don’t need), they wouldn’t be trying to pawn those things off.
I just find it ridiculous to raffle money for the payoff to be someone playing a videogame…
Fuck, donating money within the fighting game community seems sketchy as hell now.
“Dear Madcatz and Hori, please don’t sponsor our tournaments anymore, the winners are doing things they shouldn’t be doing with your contributions.”
So… the [S]plane ticket providers [/S] sponsors are not regulating this being they are designated as a ‘sponsor’. I would think this would be an alarm for said ‘sponsor’ as well. I also hope those raffling are ok financially… no im dead serious. Ive said this for years since the act of ‘doing whatever to get to said tournament’ came into place via the resurgence of SF4… I hope they are ok financially cause I would think your ‘trophies’ from said tournaments would be that… trophies not the lemme get a quick buck. oh well guess the hustle moves on to the next thing since hand to hand bets via gameplay have become non existent basically.
hmmm I wonder what markman an providers of said gifts feel about this??
Maybe they should sponsor with money or other prizes? Giving a tournament winner a stick is like giving a chess tournament winner a chess board. Dude obviously doesn’t need it. Now if the stick was in someway special, different, custom (hell just custom art of whatever tournament it’s been given at) shit would be different. But at this point you’re just cluttering that dude’s room. Ask Dios X. Dude had to sell sticks because he won 7 of them last year in tournaments and he said “Why do I need more sticks? I already used mine to win the tournament”
Edit: Rethinking about what I wrote and honestly, having the tournament offer a TE stick with that tournament’s logo and art on the stick would be pretty sweet. The stick then becomes a trophy which I guess would be more difficult to hock.
If someone wants to setup a donation drive, that’s one thing. But raffling is not the same as donating because cats is not trying to give money just so someone else can go somewhere and play video games unless there’s something in it for themselves.That’s why these raffles are off the hook right now. Real talk.
If someone wants to raise funds, sell t-shirts. Sell your extra sticks on eBay. Wash cars. Bake cookies. Stop with the damn raffles, or conduct them offline where they’re not as visible.
I can’t wait for the day where sponsored players don’t have to keep asking for handouts, but who am I kidding. Doughnayte!
P.S. playing fighting games is not a charity.
I would totally be in there spending money if top players had bake sales.
The swords from Civil War and the Belts from CEO were dope, fuck sticks.
And Keits’ infinity gauntlets.
Totally forgot about those, I need to win tournaments so I can be prepared for the oncoming bathsalts induced insanity.
I would definitely be in there for that fgc bake sale. I am just tired of seeing people asking for free handouts. A drive to bring Osamu to evo, awesome. A raffle so xxx top player who hasn’t won a tournament in who knows how long can go somewhere and play video games, on top of the fact that i don’t see any of that money back if they happen to win. Hell naw. Either get a job, play starcraft, or go to less tournaments.
typically, donation drives are for good causes. not to send a mother fucker to a video game tournament in Vegas to play video games and have fun on some other dudes’ dime(s). that is virtual pan handling.
This thread started off great and went full-retard in the span of a couple of hours.
We need to find some clever names for shit to sell.
Marnzipan, Marlin Pecan Pie, Dieminion’s dark chocolate brownies.
Guys, there is money in this shit.