StarCraft II Matchmaking Thread

Got a question for you guys. I got SC2 yesterday and installed it just fine. However it won’t download the patches. Everytime I try it stops at a random number like 16%. I’ve disable the firewall and even took my router out of the equation by going straight to the modem. Any suggestions?

you should ask on the official blizzard forum.

Why is everyone misinterpreting me, I do not, REPEAT DO NOT, find SC2 stressful. I’m just losing interest and find it boring now.

So Husky is giving all of his proceeds from the song to charity… I just want to give him a big thumbs up for doing a little bit of good for the world with Starcraft… nice job…

And I completely agree that we’ll see at least another protossless top 4… quite possibly top 8. I don’t know if Toss is just UP now OR if the really good players aren’t playing Toss because there’s just not as much variety in Toss gameplay…

I watched the Haypro match live last night since it was on so early (first set of games) and I also caught the end of the hopetorture set

gsl

Spoiler

Haypro got rofl stomped. Man in this GSL the trend in TvZ seems to be “T goes 4 rax early attack with all their SCVs and if Z can hold it they win.” Nobody wants to play Z late game and they exploit the early game greed and weakness. Sucks for the foreigners.

Also, Hopetorture just got rocked, I don’t even know what to say, he was in the top 3 of the pack alongside FruitDealer and Nestea for making top 4 2 times (finals once!) and he was taken out by a relatively unknown, crazy

got demoted back down to platinum but that was expected. dont care how long it takes, im clawing my way back up into diamond. my ELO must have dropped a TON from inactivity holy shit im being matched vs golds now too. the good news is, a LOT of the non terran matches are easy and boost my self esteem with easy wins. 7 roach rush = scout, 2 cannons + FF trap the roaches on ramp lol i win. protoss i see lots of bad play including forge wall in into void rays. only the terrans seem to know what they are doing with their ungodly bio ball.

UGH, theyre the reason im not in diamond anymore. i try really hard not to BM rage every time i lose to terran but its hard… sigh. i do the 1 gate 1 gas FE. i hold off their initial pushes easily every time. but then they just turtle on 2 base. if i attack i die. so i expand. but somehow i still manage to lose even with chargelot templars. UGH I SUCK.

1 gate FE against terran, isn’t that a bit risky? Could that be why you’re losing a lot ,are you dying before you get settled in or are you just losing the 2 base vs 2 base battle?

well, lets be realistic here, i’m dying because i suck :sad: im just raging but at the end of the day i have no one to blame but my own poor play. the 1 gate FE is standard in PvT now even Terrans are creating threads on TL asking how to beat it.

1 Gate FE (vs. Terran) - Liquipedia Starcraft 2 Wiki

below is the original thread - the first few pages everyone was skeptical but since then its been adopted by everyone, and even pros use it too now, including HuK.

[G] kcdc’s PvT FE

since you are only getting 1 gas and 1 gate, you can pump out more units. the trick is to chrono out them out constantly. also, to poke up terran ramp. if you see all marines, theyre likely going banshee, so you have to get robo out sooner. yes on paper it sounds like its impossible to hold off a push but i typically don’t lose in the early game despite my low APM. there are a couple of early terran timing pushes but i beat them soundly. if they attack early with just MM, zealot stalker will hold it off. if they attack later with MMM, sentry FF can beat it off by cutting off their retreat so they can’t kite. by then if the 2 base econ kicks in which gives a huge advantage. problem is i suck afterwards.

Heh, I suck ass too but it’s usually because my mind can’t keep up with so much at once(Produce probes, watch for warp gate cooldown so I dont get too far behind, make sure not to supply block, have a plan I’m executing and keep my chronoboost energy low) and I start slipping hardcore. I liked the Forge FE versus Zerg before the Roach Buff, I’ve never tried it too much versus Terran with a gateway instead. I could see it being powerful, you just have to have a plan to move into once you get 2 bases (i.e. 4 gate + colossus) and focus on that. I can never seem to find a build that works well like that going into/past the midgame, my colossus play seems lacking, I think its because my force field micro isn’t the best and I never put on enough pressure to keep the opponent on their toes, letting them mass vikings/corrupters at will.

I think a build like that would get crushed easily with a foxer style Marine/SCV early push, but again thats just build order/scouting/countering coming into play

yeah i think the toss macro mechanic is a PAIN because you have to manually shift your camera when warping in units, whereas other races don’t. its a hassle. my minerals climb over 1000 sometimes its embarassing. i don’t have much of a plan either and that’s the problem. i try to get collosus first (to hold off super aggressive terran push) and then transition into templar. but my timing and execution are off

realistically i’m a platinum player, but they bumped me down to 40 in my division, but i know i can grind my way back up to the top, considering how everyone at my hidden MMR seems to love cheesing (but giving me free wins LOL).

yeah FE vs zerg doesn’t seem as good because of that roach range increase blagh

here’s one where i beat a terran (TADA!) he didn’t push my front but went for some gimmicky all in drop
Steppes of War - azodye vs. Mandelbrot - Replays - SC2Replayed.com

obviously i don’t save any replays where i get pwned because of pride :lol: (but i do study them and cry)

pls excuse the low APM. i would have been in a bad spot if he had killed my scouting stalker in the beginning, but i barely made it out alive. i would probably have had to pull probes, but according to kcdc, you will still end up ahead even if you do.

Dude your response to that marauder drop was sexy as hell.

thx. obviously i’m not gonna upload the replay where i accidentally right clicked next to a bunch of roaches in the heat of battle instead of attack moving, only to lose a shitload of stalkers :lol:

its like the league skill levels below top diamond are all defined by who can consistently make less horrific terribad face palm mistakes

on other topics, yes the protoss don’t seem to be doing too well in the gsl. there’s huge QQing going on in TL about this, kinda like how zerg were QQing back in the day. a good point ppl have raised is that FF is way too good of a spell, so blizz needs to balance around it. the ability to cut off retreat and cut an opponents army in half is game breaking. so they had to nerf the gateway units. take the stalker. they’re garbage, do shit for damage, have shit damage scaling (only gain +1 per attack upgrade), and die easily. their only advantage is mobility. but if they make stalkers too good, then protoss can just win in the early game by FFing everyone to death.

so blizzard needs to carefully buff the gateway units, perhaps nerf FF by raising cost on sentries or cost to cast FF, and nerfing psi storm to compensate. but its a delicate juggle for them to make.

also, their lack of detection options are a pain in the ass esp vs terrans, who basically have a flying fucking dark templar that shoots missiles. WTF???

This is what happens when people watch the GSL and then try to copy it. This guy poorly executes this stratagey :frowning:

Steppes of War - ThatGuy vs. WarDestroyer - Replays - SC2Replayed.com

Even if gateway units are arguably weaker, the races are supposed to be different. with that in mind one race is gonna have the weakest infantry units in direct combat without backup so why cant it be toss? I don’t see the inherent problem with needing to be supplemented with sentries, Colossus, HT, etc, especially when you have a huge advantage like warp-in to work with

i did not know that Day 9 and Tasteless were bros. It makes much sense though…

So Dreamhack is the craziest tourney I have watched. So much cheese lolol

What are some of the synergies between races? Off the top of my head, I can name a few:

  1. Terran can use the medivac unit to heal zerg units
  2. Protoss can chrono boost production/research buildings for both Terran and Zerg

I’m not too sure what zerg can do for the other races… I know that a zerg queen can spawn larvae on a team mates hatchery.

Nope, toss can’t. They could chronoboost their allies in early beta, but not anymore, it was deemed too powerful.

Zerg can transfuse their allies biological units
Toss can mothership cloak allied units (I think)

Terran can heal biological units and repair mechanical units I think (scv repaired Colossus!)

In a very recent psysc vid, he showed toss chronoboosting terran/zerg. We will have to see.

Well, have any of you been watching the GSL tournament? I am a bit late on this, but that Clyde vs Leenock series was the best I’ve seen ALL GSL. It was way too damn epic.

Clide vs LeenockfOu [Round of 64 match 20] - GOMtv.net

yea you cant chrono boost ally buildings, unfortunately