Star Wars Thread

Dear mighty this ep was too good and man these Easter eggs!

Rise of Skywalker drops on Disney+ 5/4

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Haven’t watched it since. Own the steelbook tho

I wish I could say that for the entire sequel trilogy. Shits worse than my book.

It ain’t great but I just see it as an example of the idea of flying by the seat of your pants with a massive franchise is not how you handle a set of movies. Each film essentially tried to set up new paths that none of them actually followed but tried to override including the last film in the trilogy which probably won’t get a follow-up.

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Mystery boxes are never a good setup :rofl:

I am wondering where it’s gonna go from here.

Naw mystery boxes make fantastic set ups.

The person writing the mystery boxes tho needs to know whats inside them instead of just making a box, never looking inside and then dumping those boxes on someone else to open which is the general issue going on here.

I like these movies in general, but I’m not saying there aren’t problems, there are, and this is one of the biggest of them. As I said before in this thread, anyone can ask questions, that’s really not that hard. Answering them on the other hand…

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I have thoughts but I’m back at work and don’t have time to convey them. I’ll do so when I get home before I start editing my meandering mess of a book.

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As long as JJ isn’t attached.

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Pretty sure I covered that part, but doesn’t hurt to repeate.

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Are there any other ā€œfull castā€ star wars audio books besides Dooku:Jedi lost?

I have multiple issues with the sequel trilogy. Some of them are common ones of course.

  • The utter lack of an outline for the trilogy. This is unforgivable. Especially when they bought the original outline from the creator. I’m sure even if they used those treatments there would still a divide over the trilogy but at least we’d have a cohesive narrative to debate over.

  • Disrespecting legacy characters. A common and annoying mistake when introducing new characters is the crap over the previous cast in an attempt to elevate the new cast. Not only is this a stupid. It instantly turns off your most fervent customers and makes it that much more difficult to sell the new characters. It may seem like a silly example but I instantly think of Hasbro killing off Optimus Prime in Transformers The Movie only to instantly regret it. Although were smart enough to learn from it and not repeat the mistake in GI Joe The Movie.

  • Despite The Force Awakens being the Saved By The Bell: The New Class version of A New Hope. It introduced some potentially interesting characters. That were squandered by piss poor character development. Of course a lot of this has to do with TFA and TLJ taking place back to back. It also resulted in a character like Finn getting the same arc in back to back films. All the growth he had in TFA is wiped away so he literally walk the same path again in TLJ. There was no real camaraderie built between the new trio. There was bond forming between Rey and Finn. Also Finn and Poe had a good ā€œbromanceā€ forming. There no real relationship between Rey and Poe. Again this can partially be blamed on the lack of a time skip with the rest of the fault tied to TLJ’s story separating the three of them. The time to have the trio separated would have been the third film after building a strong bond between all of them in the middle chapter.

  • The narrative we were given was completely and utterly unnecessary. An outgunned band of rebels takes down a overwhelming military force. The architect of that force fails to turn the protagonist to the dark side and is killed. Leaving the protagonist as the lone Jedi to rebuild the order and the rebels to rebuild the galaxy from the military forces actions. This was the original trilogy and the sequel trilogy. Except sequel trilogy version not only did it worse, it managed to devalue the original characters victory. The lack of creativity and the return of Palapatine not only ruined what was left of an already suspect trilogy it diminishes what is generally the most revered part of the Skywalker Saga. If you are going to retread familiar ground you have do so with a damn strong narrative and well developed characters.

Sorry for the disorganization. As always, I have my best thoughts at work. Which causes me issues with my creative writing endeavors.

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Dammit…why did it still have my entire previous post in the editor. Sorry about that everybody.

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The best material has been between the trilogies. Not because of the fact that they have more time to build story but because it expands the world of star wars which is massive.

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The movies are the least interesting part of Star Wars so when they are just ok like the last 6 (yes fucking 6) then i dont mind. I like these movies enough to have fun with them. No Star Wars movie is the beat Star Wars thing tho imo so this ā€œStar Wars is ruined!ā€ Nonsense makes me roll my eyes.

Not saying you say that just a general comment.

I will give credit to Hasbro for at least having some balls in killing so many beloved G1 characters in the span of, what…15-20 minutes in the movie? Watching the Autobots get murked by Megatron and the Decepticons was pretty shocking to me, as I believed them to be untouchable. It kinda set the mood for Optimus’ ultimate fate, but yeah, resorting to resurrect him not once but TWICE in the animated series was a cheap copout.

Hell, even Duke’s ā€œnon-deathā€ was BS in the G.I. Joe movie since you could clearly tell he was meant to die by having that snake-spear impaled right in his chest. Aint nobody buying that ā€œswift recoveryā€ by the end, you could clearly tell that part of dialogue was just tacked on the script to assure kids Duke was OK (even though they clearly never thought of the aftermath as Duke was reduced to secondary character status in the animated series afterwards)

I just dont think the new movies shit on the legacy characters like…at all.

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I rewatched Ep2 tonight…It wasn’t as bad as I recall it. When I don’t take anything serious anymore and just enjoy it for what it is, I can enjoy the cheesy dialogue, the bad CG and maybe just maybe, I’ll feel this way with the other films in maybe 15 years.

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Honestly, there are very few movies that are actually ā€œthat badā€. It’s personal connection at the initial viewing that has an effect and can present a bias. The last bad movie that I saw with a deep connection to and still doesn’t work for me is Transformers 5. I’m a TF fan to the death, but that movie was a garbage fire. When I rewatched the movie years later, time has passed and still it was just as terrible as when I saw it. Regardless of the character choices, you can point to the conundrums introduced, painful story, and poor direction that littered the otherwise bloated runtime made by someone who was obviously done with the movie before it started. I think that Star Wars is made by people who actually really want to do something, but just sometimes miss the mark because of it’s novel beginning (and that includes the guy that made the whole thing).

I’d respect it if it were a narrative decision but it was just done so they could sell more toys.

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