Star Wars Thread

I’d be tempted to say the same but, remembered how incredibly botched and crappy his character was. But yeah, Kylo Ren is the closest thing to a “Memorable” aspect to the trilogy.

His Lightsaber was always really cool at least. I always digged that fiery, “Unstable” aspect of it. Plus the cross-guard. It is a cool weapon.

Disney’s shitfest also single-handedly redeemed the prequels. Because it made us all realize they simply weren’t that bad.

All you idiots hated the prequels, they were abominations and the franchise could never recover. But now they aren’t that bad.

Proof positive that dumbfucks like you are completely full of shit.

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So I got to a point in Fallen Order that has me a little confused about the nature of Force Magick and all this light vs dark vs gray stuff. This is a spoiler for the game.

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Merrin is a Nightsister who uses Magick. Per what’s been discussed in this thread, Magick is just the dark side of the Force. In the game, Merrin joins the Jedi to fight evil, and she uses her Magick to assist the Jedi. So is she essentially using the Dark side for good? If so, that seems to me to be a contradiction.

Few things to keep in mind:

  1. A lot of characters became better after the OT. Actually almost all characters became better after the OT.

  2. Since we saw the EU flesh out and make great characters out of the OT material, characters whom we know have potential (which is almost all of the heroes and a lot of side characters) are likely to get the same treatment.

Your complaints are noted but mostly irrelevant. As has been mentioned before, a lot of the big SW fans in this thread stayed fans because of the EU not in spite of it. Movies were the jump off, they could be great or ass, but the outside material is going to ultimately dictate how great or weak all of these characters are.

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In Game she says:

-Then it will come for Dathomir before long, as the war did.

From her perspective she’s not in it to fight evil, she probably wouldn’t care what the Sith do if her planet wasn’t a possible target.

Their goals somewhat align due the machinations of the Empire

So I guess the difference is:

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She’s fighting to serve herself, which is a tenant of using the Dark side, whereas Cal is fighting evil in an attempt to restore balance, yeah? If that’s the case, do all Nightsisters eventually become corrupt if they use the Dark side?

I guess it’s confusing to me because Merrin seems to have transformed from a “bad guy” to a “good guy” in the game, showing compassion and a sense of humor and all. Those traits don’t seem very characteristic of Dark side users.

I liked the PT. I like podracing. Yes even the bland relationship parts of padme and Anakin. I have seen socially awkward couples like them.

(I know you’re not directing this at me but I do defend the movies)

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That’s it exactly. Self before others is the dark side.

Nightsisters were definitely evil, so Merrin kinda is already. You can tell by the way she talks and raising zombies lol. Sith and dark side users had relationships, loved, laughed and had lives outside of doing evil stuff.

Yoda said - Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you, it will.

Using the dark side doesn’t immediately turn you evil. You see this with Anakin and even Dooku hadn’t completely fallen yet.

But it sets you down that path. The Dark Side is evil and it always corrupts. It doesn’t leave room for grey.

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Nothing wrong with defending the PT if you liked it. What is wrong, is doing a full 180 after you hate mongered for more than a decade.

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At least we can admit when we were wrong. Even the worst of the prequels, the Phantom Menace, is STILL 10x more watchable than Disney’s sequel trash. At least the Phantom Menace had Palpatine, Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, and that amazing Lightsaber duel at the end.

The Disney Trilogy just had Rey… doing… stuff… ugghhhhh.

Even the worst of the prequels, the Phantom Menace, is STILL 10x more watchable than Disney’s sequel

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Yeah, I can never respond to you in a serious manner again.

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I gotta watch TFA and RoS again.

In a few months, everybody in this thread is gonna watch all the movies as a group in release order. We’re gonna settle this nonsense once and for all.

:triumph:

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TFA is my favorite of the ST. I think it’s actually a pretty good movie. Love the return of Han, love Finn, bad ass straighter sequences, and that lightsaber battle in the snow is cool as fuck.

As far as the PT, I mean I’ll watch any of them. There are definitely some redeeming qualities in any Star Wars movie. But I still feel like they are badly written/directed even though the overall story is good.

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lol! If the movies were actually Good? You wouldn’t need to meticulously view them again and again to properly assess their quality.

Says the guy now saying the PT is good hahaha

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That’s not why I watch any movie. I own the saga because I like Star Wars and still find enjoyment in them, warts and all.

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That’s not how you spell Attack of the Clones.

eh…I do multiple viewings/readings/watchings of a lot of media to really get a sense of it. One and done doesn’t really let you take in all the details of a work. I have books I’ve read 5/6 times and each time there’s new dimensions to relationships, certain themes show up more etc.

What kind of sad sack of bumbling ineptitude are you?

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Some movies get better on the rewatch. Most films by Christopher Nolan are like this.

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I’m sorry that you’re so mentally challenged that you can’t immediately recognize a Good movie upon first watch. Your life must be really weird.

I mean, do you have to rewatch stuff like M.Night Shyamalan’s “The Happening” multiple times to see that its bad? Yikes haha (i’m only joking but i hope for your sake that’s not true).