I did the standing 720 in this video the way you describe:
[media=youtube]NWKOd00dJQs[/media]
I was just straight spinning the stick like a fucken mad man. I had my right hand on my stick (no homo) with my palm on the ball top with an open hand (didn’t grasp the ball) and my left hovering over a PPP macro mapped button. I would spin the stick really really fast and it came out. Hurt my wrist going that fast. It certainly isn’t very practical at all.
The method described above is certainly practical and gives a bit of range and the “what is gief gonna do factor” as he takes a step forward.
Oh I’m not doubting it’s practical, I just thought it was known. I’ve been doing it for a while, and thought there was a straight unbuffered 720 that wasn’t that hard to do. Oh well.
I was able to get it, and was able to minimize it to 12 inputs. It’s just a 270 + 225 actually.
tick :lp: :u::ub::l::db::d::df::r: walk for a bit :df::d::db::l::ub::lp::mp::hp:
Video Here: [media=youtube]LdU2_5cPqOI[/media]
I was able to do 11 inputs after a bit of testing. I think it shortened the max distance I can walk forward, but can’t be sure. 255 + walk + 255.
tick :lp::ub::l::db::d::df::r:walk for a bit:df::d::db::l::ub:+:lp::mp::hp:
Video Here: [media=youtube]ap4fHcLYVuE[/media]
I just started playing around with this, but for me it the 2 things to keep in mind are getting the up-back out during s.lp and not walking forward too much. The inputs posted by iMaGe are spot on, so as long as you can get the first half in without jumping the second half is just about adjusting timing.
edit: or buffer the first part during whatever, like Vangief’s c.lk to walking 720 at around 2:40 of the video WorstGiefEVER posted of Wong vs Vangief [media=youtube]iB7gf4jsiSY&feature=related"[/media]
to be honest… i can do like 30% of the time in training mode, but its not practical for a match (i still try it, a lot of times a random jumping fierce comes out) but I think its much easier on pad… i cannot even do it once on stick. I use the madcatz fightpad and i just roll my thumb quickly and i can get it to come out without any sort of buffering.
12369874123 HOLD 6 32147 THIS METHOD ALLOWS YOUR TO TALK JUST A BIT FURTHER, than 3741 HOLD 6 32147 … i’m fucking mind boggled at why??? what’s the actual fucking difference. The first way seems like too many inputs but you walk further but the other one has less inputs but you walk shorter and it’s more practical . some body lend me a hand here i’m mind fucked lol
The input for 720 in this game is in ANY order 624(8)624 where (8) can be any up direction (ub,u, or uf). If a motion lets you walk farther then it just gives you more chances to buffer those inputs. To get the farthest walk, buffer your 360 as late into the recovery of your attack as possible so you get the maximum time to be able to walk while it is still freshly buffered in. Either you are buffering in directions again, or the longer motion helps you time the technique correctly so that you finish near the end of your recovery. Also it is easier for me to walk far with 720 when an attack hits/blocked compared to when it whiffs but I’m not sure if that is part of the game.
I disagree. A walking 720 if learned reliably would be a huge weapon in a Gief’s arsenal. The biggest problem with landing our Ultra is that the vast majority of setups for it. So it’s great for punishment but significantly less reliable as a straight offensive tool. This changes that and we’ve seen it put to good use in high pressure situations so it can be done, the barrier of execution is high, but I think this is doable.
ok, i made a video of me doing the j motion walking 720…
[media=youtube]54HKIZhNUJg[/media] … And ravaii what you said, sound pretty on point. i was testing in video how leniet the timing was ie… taunt then walk up 720, or green hand buffer the motion in green hand then walk forward and ultra. All of those tactic are very difficult, well, at least for me.
I will, try the other way, with more inputs.
@ jngyuen,
yeah, i just noticed that i was going 236 then 74123 hold 6 then 32147. so actually your right but i have watched my inputs and i have done it without 6, so, i don’t know. there’s still more to find out about gief …let’s bring the gief thread back alive.