I wish I could remember the guys name that did it in a couple of matches on pad. I agree, though, it’s totally a shenanigan and impractical.
EDIT:
I’ll try to get it again in SSF4.
walk up spd works only because of it’s range and 2 frames startup.
if a throw takes 7 frames to start, it wont work. simple as that. any normals can beat that, let alone specialls or anything else.
if you are including input time in the startup of a move, then walk up SPD is not 2 frame startup either and it isn’t invincible like a 720 is… not as powerful, with weaker mixup options afterwards as well
normals can’t beat your 720 if you get it out on time. you actually want them to press a button because it guarantees your ultra will land… if they are mashing on jab then why are you trying to do walk up throw anyway? stick to those green hand combos you like so much
After someone mentioned canceling a taunt into an ultra in one of the other threads, I worked on it…so its my standard counter to missed DPs and other ‘vertical moves that whiff’
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helll no that’s not impratical. I mean, in a footsie war no … if you have someone locked down in a corner and you walk in and grab them no buffer that is god like. But a 540 motion is different story and could
probably cost you the match because of high risk/ medium reward factor. if you miss your ultra then your out of a ultra and out of 500 plus damage that you could have done and also your out of a high
damaging punishing tool which makes it useless my friend the risk greatly out weighs the reward
if u including the 1st 360 input time, then walking 720 is even more useless.
people may not reacting fast enough to a 360, but they wont when u need 5 more frames.
and i mean beat i mean, they will hit u with any kind of normals before the 7 frames startup.
u wont see black screen coming.
most of the time u did a walking 360 , u think opppnets are sleep??
WRONG, 99% THEY WERE TRYING A NORMAL AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS NOT FAST ENOUGH FOR A 2 FRAMES THROW.
BUT IF IT’S 7 FRAMES, DIFFERENT STORY.
LET ALONE WALKING SPD 99% ARE LP 360, NOT MP SPD.
i couldn’t agree more … it’s just the damn level of difficulty it takes to pull of that makes it not worth and the risk is too fucking great and you almost open up more options for your opponent if you do miss the ultra
Just tried again, seems impossible to do in SSF4, oh well.
even with the macros its still impossible well, ia glad i never tried to learn to do 540 ultra
Well, I can’t macro SSF4 unless there is a PC version. I don’t have a programmable controller so maybe someone who does may find out the absolute truth. But I could pull it off manually pretty well, but can’t do it a single time in SSF4.
I could do standing 720 (540 really) on a pad with about 25% success rate (2-3 successes out of 10 tries) Its definitley not impossible, just really Impractical. I never got consistent enough at it to try implementing it in a match.
COULD NOT DO IT IN SSF4!! AT ALL!
Thats retarded. The ultras are still useful, you just cant do them from standing, you can byuffer it into anything. Dashes included.
Yea, it’s a shenanigan. And shenanigans are usually just that, they work once and at the most twice and they are usually unsafe, but when they work, THEY WORK. I think people just think it out to be harder than it is. At the worst, you jump backwards and punch…lol. It’s possible to do it in real matches, I’ve done it a couple of times. I’ve never done it in anything as high level as say playing Valle or Daigo or something.
There have been several discussions here about this before. I think the point is that if you have time to do a standing 720 to punish something and there is 75% chance you will mess up and jump back. Why not buffer with cr.LK or just do something more safe and guaranteed. Agreed it is shenanigans but sometimes they pass that line and just go into the ‘foolin’ category.
Ya I totally agree, it’s just one of things like “WHOAH, never expected that to come out”.
wtf … damn, i never said ultra’s were pointless lol… i said …STANDING ULTRAS WITH NO BUFFERING IS POINTLESS …
wtf … damn, i never said ultra’s were pointless lol… i said …STANDING ULTRAS WITH NO BUFFERING IS POINTLESS …
Have you guys ever heard of a player named Vangief?
He’s a pad player and he threw out standing 720’s like a beast. The moment you guessed wrong, you would eat 600 damage. He is too good, and that stuff wasn’t just a gimmick.
That may be the person I was talking about. He was really good at doing it. Tall skinny guy. Well maybe not tall, but skinny and average height.
Yeah he’s an asian dude from Cali I think. He’d mix it up really well with cr.lk cr.lk cr.lk ex green. And then the moment he’s conditioned you to block the cr.lk, BAM Ultra comes out in 1 frame and ur like GG.
I think the dude we’re searching for is “fongpay725”. He posted his vid links from a recent Cali tourney in the gief vid thread here:
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=173814&p=8716020&viewfull=1#post8716020
"2:14:40 enjoy the walking 720 
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