Standard A-Groove starters and combos

Classic Fighting Games Capcom VS SNK 2
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Hey I know this is kind’ve n00b but we all start somewhere and sometime. Until now I’ve only played 3s but i picked up CvS2 to learn it.

I started using Rock and experimenting with the A-Groove system that acts like the V-ISM from a3. I messed around with d,u+P or qcb+P as launchers (in corner) and just standard jabs or kicks as followups and a super at the end. This seems pretty basic and easy now so I wanted to move onto the next level.

A) What are some real in-match ways to start an A-Groove combo?

B) What are some decent A-Groove strings?

Thanks and sorry for making a n00b thread. Two or three good answers is enough =D

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a-groove rock is one of my favorite a-groove characters to play, he has good roll cancels and his a groove combos are pretty entertaining to try do and kinda flashy


-forums
-fighting game discussion
-set it to from last 30 days to since beginning
-and there is an a-groove guide there with every characters better a-groove combos

okay, ill stop being lazy, here’s the link

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What are the advantages of using a rising tackle + hp xx whiff s lk as opposed to a hard edge for AA CC starter?

I can’t get the whiff s lk, the timing seems to be too hard, so I was wondering if hard edge works just as well…

My corner CC for people with bad muscle memory:
rage run: shift, shinkuu nage, break [activate] s hk * 6, hp rising tackle, lp rising takle, raging storm
In short hand, that’s:
qcb + hk, 360 + p xx ppp, wait for just half a second then [activate] s hk * 6, d, u + hp, [d] <—holding down while you’re in the air helps, u + lp, qcf*2 + p

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The reason I would use rising tackle in the custom combo is because it’s a more reliable anti-air solution (at least for me it is) then hard edge. I whiff hardedge a lot when people come down from the air, but hardedge is a lot easier to land. Also, after I whiff, it seems to give me a lot more time to make a custom combo, thus doing more damage.

It took me about half an hour to get the timing down. Just think of it as a chain combo, go d, u + HP, then immediately go to down and tap lk when you see your move start.

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The reason I would use rising tackle in the custom combo is because it’s a more reliable anti-air solution (at least for me it is) then hard edge. I whiff hardedge a lot when people come down from the air, but hardedge is a lot easier to land. Also, after I whiff, it seems to give me a lot more time to make a custom combo, thus doing more damage.

It took me about half an hour to get the timing down. Just think of it as a chain combo, go d, u + HP, then immediately go to down and tap lk when you see your move start.

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Damage and resets questions:

I was wondering how to get more milage out of Rock’s CC. I suppose that you could do:
[activate] c mk, c hp * 4-6, s hp, qcb + hp and do the regular carry to corner thing.
I’m sure you could put a reset in there with a toward + mk as well, and I think that rage run -> shift is ok, but people tend to see that coming.

Are there any other high damage with reset possibilities? The way I see it, the only way for Rock to get more than 7k damage is to do lots of hp’s or hk’s, reset, and repeat.

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ive been trying to work on some rock resets/mixups. ive had some success in the mixup but damage wise you really dont get that big of a bonus. rock + resets really dont mix, unless you’re hoping to mess with your opponents head a lot, so the next time you get to CC you can take advantage of that.

anyway:

[near corner]-activate, c.mk, c.fk, [s.fk, fp hard edge] > corner, pause, *meaty qcf + fp, f+mk XX qcf + lp, c.mk, c.fk, s.fk x N, raging storm.

*reset part of the combo. if you see the qcf + fp hit, then quick cancel the overhead and continue. if opponent blocks low, just wait till the overhead hits, then cancel and continue.

[near corner]-activate, c.mk, c.fk, [s.fk, fp hard edge] > corner, pause, *meaty qcf + fp, f+mk XX hcb + fk, command throw > corner, break, s.fk x N, raging storm.

*another set up, though easy to see.

note: i like to have at least have my bar or more at least when i get to the corner, that way im not rushing my attacks. if you have less forget the reset and finish the CC.

[corner]-activate, c.mk, c.fp x 2, c.fk XX *hcb + mk, pause, f+mk XX command grab, break, s.fp x N, raging storm.

*dont have the opponent dead in the corner, just close enough so when you do rocks run he ends up there. the f+mk is the dangerous part of it since he can easily be hit out of it. and so if that might be a problem…

[CC]…f+mk XX counter, f+mk XX command grab, break, s.fk x N, raging storm.

*if they dont fall for the first counter, then command throw. if they do, i doubt they’ll try anything again against the second f+mk.

anyway, like i said…rock and resets dont mix. i dont do these a lot…hardly ever. just something to know if i want to mix up my game a bit…

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"c.mk, c.fk"
what is fk? I usually go by the terminology ligh, medium hard for each, so I’m not sure what fk is :confused:
If fk is hard kick, wouldn’t that count as a knockdown? I guess I’m just not seeing this, because I don’t know why you’d mix in an overhead if they get knocked down…

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yep rock… has dmging AA combos… I was supposed to make a vid…but I never got a memory stick… doh!

ok ground combo… activate c.hpX7 qcb hp xx (lp,lk,lp,lk,mp qcb hp)repeat raising storm or shine knuckle…

2nd combo: wake up lp rising tackle activate Hk qcb mp(x2) HK qcbmp… corner rising tackle til bar ends… raising storm…

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yeah, fk = fierce kick

lp/lk - low punch/kick
mp/mk - med punch/kick
fp/fk - fierce punch/kick

the over head is for some mind games. you can make it look like its gonna come out as a meaty overhead, then cancel into the command grab at the last second. or meaty over ahead attempt XX qcf + lp XX overhead attempt again XX command grab.

just mixups/mindtricks…

corner set up i like (only works vs certain characters)*

-shift into corner, command grab, hold pp, early release (so it his the oppoent high), lp rising tackle, activate, c.fk, s.fk x 2, fp rising tackle x 3, s.fk, raging storm.

*on some characters itll juggle for 3 hits and others its only a 1 hit juggle.

corner set up vs rolento and dan:

-shift into corner, command grab, hold pp, early release, fp rising tackle, activate, shift into corner, command grab(otg), break grab, j.fk x 2, land, s.fk, fp rising tackle x 3, s.fk, raging storm.