OMG, have you played B-Izm, BBH, Streak or Blazeu on GGPO man? Guy kicks ass on A2, where do you come from? some local arcade with death scene?
I’m pretty sure at top level comp. No characters from A2 can beat Ken, Chun, Rose, Ryu or Rolento. Sagat had the best chance against them.
I’ve seen Choi play Guy in person. The point still stands. SFA2 Guy was the worst Guy.
Hey, Valle won B3 with Sagat! Sagat also sucks in SFA2. If you aren’t at least top 7, all you’d doing is putting in way more effort for the same or worse results. Why start with a character like that, when you can start with a version of the character who was beastly, tone down his beastliness a tad (i.e. remove dizzies/redizzies on his chains), and let him go?
raeli:
I agree. BUt given how SFIV’s engine operates, I don’t see any way that Guy minus chains minus SFA3 style juggling is going to be anything other than a mediocre character, at best. he needs something going in to compete. Unless they make massive changes to the engine that we’re not aware of, SSFIV is still likely to be very defensive at its core, and Guy (much like most of the characters in SFA2) has trouble penetrating hardcore defenses (sorry, run mixups in SFA2 = run into VAlle CCs; run mixups in SFIV will likely = run into DP FADC Ultra).
Saqs:
Corner Bushin to Punch super and cancelable 1st hit c.MK are the only good things that SFA2 Guy had that’s missing from SFA3 Guy. I hope those come back at least. I forget if he got those back in CFJ.
You forgot the other top tier Charlie. :lol: Top 4 in Alpha 2 was Chun, Rose, Ken and Charlie.
wrong. top 4 was chunli rose ken ryu. and lol to who ever thought guy was bad in alpha 2. yes he requires more work to win, yes he was the worst out the alpha series but i asure u he wasnt bad. if he was bad then i guess i got lucky in the tournys i won on ggpo vs top players. a2 guy had th ebest rush down ou tthe 3 guys
. a1 guy redizzy combos a3 guy combo happy guy. a2 most def had the best rush down bc of cr mk cancel into dash, st short cancel into dash and a whole alot of other hsit cancel into his dash.
This is great news for the Guy fans 
I remember a long time back when people were musing over potential new faces to an IV sequel and Guy was definitely a popular choice. Its great to see you guys get a nod 
I have to agree here. Granted, A2 Guy does have some bad matchups and compared to his previous iteration he doesn’t seem very good but with the right amount of effort he can be played well and he can win. It’ll be interesting seeing how he fairs in SSF4 without having AC’s or the A3 juggle system to back him up. I still see him strategically being fun to play. The thought of having EX Hayagake would be pretty awesome, or Houzantou. Having either one of them as EX would really help his ground game getting in and maintaining pressure.
Depending on his Ultra and supers, I think Guy could have some interesting pressure strings and combos.
The thought of being able to do Stand Strong, Stand Fierce XX Houzantou EX Level2 Focus Attack into Bushin Gorai Kyaku would be sick–IF that ends up being his Ultra. Then again, that depends on if Houzantou actually has the same push back from previous games. The opponent might be airborne after being hit so he may have juggle properties similar to Gen in the corner ( Standing Strong [Mantis]into[Crane] Crouching Short EX Focus Attack into Ryukoha]) so he may have potential to at least juggle Bushin Hasso Ken (if he has it).
I’m sure he can do Gokusa Ken into Bushin Hasso Ken if that’s his Ultra or Super. I think creating offensive pressure/strats will be really fun with him. There’s a lot to consider/ponder. Its been a while since I’ve had seemingly positive thoughts about SF4.
Is guy still gonna keep rocking those nike dunks/jordan 1’s from Alpha? Or will there be licensing/copyright issues? I always wondered how Capcom got over that in the Alpha series.
A2 Guy is no slouch, even though he is probably the worst out of the Alphas. However: You’re on fucked up ground to begin with when you start comparing gameplay elements in the Alpha series, because they were pretty much three very different games that happened to share the same name/number sequence. Every chapter was radically different from the others (until you get into A2 vs. A2G or A3 vs. A3 Upper nonsense). Probably the most disjointed, confused fighting game series ever.
SF4 is fucking slow btw. I’m hoping they speed shit up in Super (both in physical game speed and in meter handling), because who wants to play Guy at slow lane speed and needing to land corner trap combos like…a bajillion times before the opponent finally fucking dies.
That is, if this isn’t a bad rumor with a fucked up Photoshop job. Then I am deeply embarrassed I did not close this thread sooner.
P.S. Chun-Li, Rose, Ken, Ryu is your top tier in Alpha 2…you tier whores. Until you face my Birdie/Adon, then you’ll think Birdie, Adon is top tier. :wgrin::arazz::wonder:
tell em sos with birdies 90% cc ^_^. lol
oh god
here comes mr. a2 guy lol
Man your gonna get him nerfed after you win a tourny with him
lol let me take full advantage while i can tho lol. but i do have anice wish list for his ex moves lol thats should be reasonable and not broken.
If can let us here it
I want to try him too… maybe you can give me some lessons
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ex shoulder-invulnerable to projectiles. and wall bounce on hit.
ex hurricane-invinicble a few frames and more damage
ex bunshin flip-juggle opportunity after hit (like in alpha 2)
ex bunshin elbow-knockdown cant roll out
ex dash- eats one hit like el furtes.
ex dash slide-real fast cant roll out and more stun damage then regular.
ex dash overhead kick-2 hits,more damage and a lil bit more faster.
imo i think those are reasonable for his ex moves.and if u need any tips just ask. i know alpha 2 guy inside out no homo lol
Hmmm, how about making his grab super from a3 one of his ultras ?
So you could have; command run mixups,baiting > Ultra for example. Great for punishing/or just general mindfucking.
well supposebly in ssf4 chars will have 2 ultras. so ill take his aa and grab for ultra and his kick combo for super.
heres hoping his chains arent mashable and keep to the tradition like Gen’s up kicks
guy was never that great of a character except in a1.
i wonder are they gonna use final fight streetwise guy with his tattoos?
same with cody, are they gonna use his orange jumpsuit as an alternative outfit? or are they gonna use his final fight 1 outfit?
Considering I remember them deeming Streetwise as “Not Canon”, I’m going to say they’ll stay the hell away from anything relating to it.
Final Fight
Final Fight 20th anniversary done right. What’s best is I don’t have to choose.