SSFAE:2013?

[GooseMoose]

I disagree with changing the Jump HP being a regular jump in as its already ambiguous as to which side it lands (especially in the corner). If anything, it should be given hard knockdown properties so fuzzy guard tactics stay in tact (hah! accidental pun).

As for the other changes I posted:

1. Juri with better walk speed in both directions. Or compensate for the slow walkspeed with better defensive options such as a better backdash.

Reason: Being the fourth slowest character doesn’t really do justice to her spacing and footsie game. Other slow characters have something to compensate their slow movement. Makoto and Seth have great forward and back dashes. Sagat has great fireballs as well as normals that do more than average damage. Hakan has oil and Dhalsim has 3/4 screen normals.

2. Light Kick Senpusha to not whiff (2nd hit) on crouching opponents as well as making it -2 or -3 on block opposed from -4 and -8.

3. Far medium punch to have start up frames of 4 instead of 6 and far light kicking being 4 frames instead of 5 on start up, so it can be used to apply pressure.

Reason for 2 & 3: Will help greatly during the FSE mixup game so opponents cannot just upback all day, helps to keep them grounded after a light kick senpusha mixup. The -3 or -2 is still punishable on block for SPD characters or Shoryuken characters, and even some supers/ultra. Far light kick is barely utilized due to far medium kick being superior. The light kick senpusha being -8 sometimes on crouching makes it a risky tool, -4 is fair, but -2 or -3 would be great (if not too greedy).

4. Far Heavy Kick being FADC cancellable

Reason: This move eats Focus crumples all day, level 2 and even level 3. The recovery is too great and even when spaced at maximum distanced, can still be focus crumpled. FADC is not for combo purposes but simply to make Juri safer and not eat a Focus crumple ultra.

5. Jump heavy punch being either Hard knockdown or regular jump in properties as it is in SFxT.

Reason: Having it as soft knockdown makes it almost pointless to use as if the opponent does a quick rise, Juri is at a disadvantage as she is still landing while the opponent has already gotten up. Currently it is only used in Fuzzy guard, or Deep ambiguous jump ins, but that is it’s only purpose. Having it as a hard knockdown will ensure that Juri will be safe if she does an instant over head, or give her set ups. In compensation for this, on block, the jump heavy punch should be punishable. Also if it had regular jump in properties like in SFxT that would be great, but in my opinion, overpowered or simliar to sakuras Jump heavy.

6. Ex Pinwheel having invunerable frames on first frame so it doesn’t trade with everything.

Reason: Any meaty beats Juri’s EX pinwheel free and when it trades, the opponent is in favor in terms of frame advantage and could option select the trade into an ultra. As Juri has a weak wake up game, I think it would be fair to give her one reversal, maybe similar to that of Sakura’s EX shouken where it has some invincibility, but when blocked 3 bars have to be used. If invunerability frames were given to Juri’s EX pinwheel then her pushback should be lessened so the opponent can punish it. I think the -14 is fair enough but the reason why people complain about it is mainly the pushback which makes it difficult for people unfamiliar with the character to punish accordingly.

IMO 4-6 are wishes, and 1-3 are reasonable. Also I agree with the standing lp propositions. I wish something would be changed about standing heavy punch far/close, but I’m not sure what to change about it.

[genkibot]

I like 1 and 3 of those. Also that other one I mentioned on CU already.

I REALLY like Genki’s changes. Didn’t even think of the jumping fierce thing. That doesn’t mess with any fuzzy setups or anything does it? I mean anything you can fuzzy with j.hp works with j.mp too right?

It won’t mess with the fuzzy setups. Fierce fake crossup works on almost everyone - it’ll be pretty broken if it doesn’t knock down haha

[HTX.08.20.02]

If I make a vid showing what/why I think Juri needs, will one of y’all post it on the unity forums?

[T00LMAN_TAYL0R]

It’s good to see people from this board posting on Unity suggesting most of the stuff we have suggested here - especially Ultra 2 mentions!! Hopefully, it will get hammered into Ayano’s and Ono’s brain and one day we will receive good news. Still haven’t seen mentions of the EX counter controls being reversed.

It’s also good to see some people on Unity open to the idea of more costumes. I posted the suggestion on Unity’s front page where Combofiend posted, hope he sees it.

http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o736/AriesWarlock/juricostumes_zps542c6b39.jpg

I would like any of these 3 costumes, they look awesome. If I had to choose only one it would have to be the one on the left. She looks pretty, sexy in all her costumes, but the costume on the left, besides looking like a boss, looks to me like she had finally beaten Bison and Seth and taken over control of S.I.N. She just looks bad ass.

Anyway, U2 users, what do you think of in a corner EX fireball > U2? Like Ryu’s EX fireball > U1.

They should add a new costume for Juri. Preferably one for her that has long hair. After all of the back and forth this forum had, we seem to got a solid idea in the buffs that should be applied to Juri. Thinking about it, if her fuhajin store hitbox is extended enough, we just may have a new setup to beat dps on our opponents wakeup. Once this game is updated, its tech research time.

[Shiroyasha]

I want the left custome so much I would even pay for it

YEAH RIGHT I WOULD PAY FOR IT CAPCOM SO YOU BETTER ADD IT

[AriesWarlock]

Some days before the Juri window is closed, I’ll go quote some other things to back them up like fixes to U1. Totally forgot about U1 being a soft knockdown.

People are asking for different angles in EX dive kick. Well, if they give us that I am not going to complain. Of course, I would accept if they were somewhat lesser than when in U1 since she’s supposed to be powered-up then.

Hmm a few are asking for U1 to be removed? lol

You know what? When they open the last section (additional changes), I am going to ask if they could give us a sound test like in old SF games. You know where you can hear all the sounds, speeches, etc. Then record some to PC’s and use them as cell ringers.

If I make a vid showing what/why I think Juri needs, will one of y’all post it on the unity forums?

yeah, I could do it. In fact, I wish I could remember past videos of U2 failing and other glitches.

I want the left custome so much I would even pay for it

YEAH RIGHT I WOULD PAY FOR IT CAPCOM SO YOU BETTER ADD IT

I see you and I have the same idea! Or were you being sarcastic?

[Terios]

Yeah. FSE is just ripping apart all the competition. What chance do Akuma, Cammy and Seth have against FSE? only 20 percent apparently. Even if they have 80 percent of their life! We’re frauds playing a broken character. :C

[Slayer0]

It’s just too good. Doesn’t matter about how risky it is or the meter cost, it is TOO GOOD
(seriously, dis guy)

[AriesWarlock]

HTX.08.20.02, how is that video coming along?

[HTX.08.20.02]

HTX.08.20.02, how is that video coming along?

I recorded most of what I wanted to show but Im having a case of laziness and havent attempted to edit it. When is the Juri deadline?

[AriesWarlock]

I think it’s Thursday midnight Eastern time.

[AriesWarlock]

Combofiend and Haunts saying Juri is bad?

0:13:25

[Terios]

Well they said THEIR Juri sucks. Not the character.

[AriesWarlock]

Oh ok, thanks for clearing it up. Couldn’t hear it well on this pc.

[Axl_m4ster]

does anyone know the exact date when these rebalance updates take place?

[Axl_m4ster]

i wanna see what capcom does…if it will be a hit or miss for us(juris)

[AriesWarlock]

Probably by fall?

As you guys will have noticed on the suggestion thread, I posted the video made by HTX.08.20.02 that illustrates very well some of Juri’s weaknesses.

[Axl_m4ster]

great vid. god i hope you posted that on capcom unity.

[Terios]

I kinda want to give you everything just for that ragtimey version of Juri’s theme. lol

I feel like in general Juri’s just want our busted moves fixed. You should see the E.Ryu thread. They want to get a combo off of dive kick if it hits their BACK SHOULDER. Cause why shouldn’t they get a 50/50 that leads to like…probably 500 stun? They wanna be super Seth from the looks of it.

[AriesWarlock]

You can find that song here

Ask the guy to put up an MP3 version of the song. I want it too.