SSF4AE: Gouken, Quick Air-Tatsu help

I main Gouken and Gen in street fighter, but I need help with goukens air tatsu. I need to do it near-instant, so its just off the floor, but I cant get the timing right. And the tiger knee motion doesnt help because I need to neutral jump/forward jump, then move the analog all the way back for the air spinning kick. Can anyone give me any techiniques/hints on how to do it?
This is the setup that im trying, i know it works because i’ve done it before, but i cant get the timing right anymore. Gouken: Demon flip - Grab - Air tatsu (as quick as possible). The does a cross-up.

Im pretty sure this can be done in sf4 and ssf4 too, not just in ae

It’s just massive practice on this with precise inputs.

QCB, UF+K

I have a lot of problems doing TK motions that aren’t continuous, so I know what you’re going through =(
When I really sat down and tried to grind it out with Cammy for her TKCS in Super, I could get it to a semi-reliable state. Eventually you’ll hit it if it’s an important technique for you

Man I’ve been trying this with ken (dp -> fadc -> air tatsu), it pisses me right off.

Does everyone who does this just to QCB, UF+K, or do they use any other shortcuts? I’ve tried a few, nothing seems consistent so far. grr

Instead of necro-ing a three-year-old off-topic post, try post in the ken forum.