SSF4 Guile General Discussion Thread

That would be great. I’ll keep an eye out.

Talk about landing a Ultra 1 from the farthest range possible. Lolol

can anyone explain how nuckledu manages to boom after a st.lk in this video at 2mins 31secs? is this new tech or did i just miss it?

EDIT - just seen dagger g talking about this in another thread. i’m guessing this has to do with upback charge. will have to try that out.

ok so i couldn’t do this for the longest time on pad and now i’ve pretty much mastered it. here’s my advice - go use decapre in training mode and learn her stinger fadc ultra 1 or 2 (2 is the easiest option). both are super easy compared to guile’s fadc ultra 2 and will get you used to the holding the focus attack and doing the charged dash etc. then once you’ve mastered it, try doing guile’s one. using edition select, i’ve gone back and tried doing fadc ultra 2 with ssf4 version of guile and i find it a lot easier. i believe the reason this is hard with guile is because his dash is slow, along with sonic hurricane having a slower startup in comparison to it’s super sf4 version - but don’t quote me on that. i’m sure other people on this forum know better than me.

if you’re going to roll with ultra 1, one thing i would urge you to practice is option select ultra 1. this works on characters with slow back dashes and characters who do a back off then toward move on wakeup. it’s not even very hard to perfect. you just do a fast input of ultra 1 after an initial cr.lp on your opponents wakeup. if you’re finding that too hard, try learning option select, sweep and option select df.hk first.

Old tech, you chain at upback to not get knee bazooka.

so the weirdest thing just happened to me in a rolento/guile match up. rolento goes for yolo ultra 2 and it hit me regardless of the fact i was blocking. i even saved my replay to check my inputs. definitely blocking. dunno if this is a rolento or guile glitch but it’s a thing to look out for.

Were you crouch blocking? (gotta ask lol… I’m not sure if it actually hits low either)

yup crouch blocking. i’ve tried to recreate this in training mode but i can’t so i have no fucking idea what happened. maybe it was because the match was a bit laggy and the ultra is super quick…dropped input or something…but in the replay inputs i was clearly in down back.

couple of quick things -

  1. guile is doing rather well in tournaments recently - what do you guys think it’s down to? just curious to see peoples opinions.
  2. i’ve noticed a couple of guile players going straight into flash kick after a couple of jabs rather than going for the cr.mp link. any reason for this outside of not wanting to miss this link?

Couple notes I wanted to mention.

I’ve been noticing that KnuckleDu punishes a lot of stuff with df.hk > s.hp and then throws a boom immediately after. It’s an interesting setup that looks absolutely beautiful. That s.hp puts them at the perfect range to HAVE to block the boom. Haven’t played around with it much personally, but I’m definitely going to be adding it to my game.

I’ve also been thinking about more opportunities where s.hp xx red focus is a good option for a punish. Due to perhaps df.hk not being fast enough or having a good enough hitbox.

  • If you dash under akuma air fireballs
  • Blocked zangief greenhands
  • Ever block a DP that crosses you up? To where you’re not sure what side they will land on? I’ve seen it happen with shoto EX DPs and with adon’s dp. It can turn your df.hk into a sweep.
  • Counterhit balrog’s TAP before it hits you
  • A blocked Cammy drill for max damage
  • Hakan slide punish
  • Blocked rufus lk messiah ender
  • Poorly spaced sagat tiger knee
  • If you get a jump-in on Seth (Let’s face it, you need every bit of damage you can get in this match)
  • Really, anytime someone whiffs something in the air, you can trip guard with s.hp xx red focus… but it’s risky… too early or too late and you waste a bar and possibly get punished.

Don’t try it against certain characters that can punish fireballs from midscreen with a stocked Revenge Meter. You’ll end up paying dearly for it. Characters that come to mind are…Rolento, Chun Li, Dudley, Decapre, Deejay, Abel and more.

Well guys looks like this is it for me and USFIV. My sincerest thanks to every single one of you for all the help you gave not only to myself but others as well; this sub section as a whole was always very informative and welcoming.

I never really knew how to play SF properly when I first started, but thanks to this community I do (well OK I still suck but I suck a whole lot less, there that sounds fair)

Honorable mentions:
Slinkun, Nemesysis syndrome (both you guys helped and advised me on so many occasions I lost count), that guy with the smirking star in an aviator suit avatar, wikum, syngin (who’s tough love I shall not forget!), lliang hu (keep doing what you do bro) parabellum (who jumped ship and I don’t even know if he is still on here), peter the Bohemian(who could forget a name like that?!) Warhawk, Brahn, the influx of dudes that came after super edition, anyone else who stuck with Guile through thick and nerfs, and last but by no means least Gilley for your no nonsense attitude, your fountain of Guile knowledge, and all your hard work keeping this place as awesome as it was and still is.

I hope that I was able to provide a fraction of help as compared to the tremendous amount I received.

It’s been one hell of a 6+ year ride; we’ve had good times and times where our main got nerfed for no real reason. In any case, I wish you all good health and many happy returns; hope to get bodied by you all in SFV!