Hey, long time gen, wondering how to deal with the vortex. I would like to know my options when it comes to ibukis and akumas mix up game. I played fubar duck last week and he has an answer for any escape i could think of.
Since super came out my ex oga isnt helping anymore. I find it extremely challenging to win againsy these two chars.
Another issue im having is chuns footsies. Her mp feels like its got priority on all my normals. Her c.hk seems to recover stupid fast to where i cant punish. Is it just me?
i can help you with ibuki vortex, the thing about it it not where the kunai going to hit you, it where ibuki is in the air. is she in the front or back, then you block either way.
now if they do it to early it will hit the ground, too late they wont revoery in time to do any attack if it hits or block.
course if the timing is right never ever try to reversal. you just get knock back down, plus if the timing is right and you block it, you then have to worry about a mix up she can do.
Thank you. Now that you say It depends on where she is it makes things so clear.
An example to prove what you say came to me as this.
Sim shoots fireball, teleports on the other side of you. You block the fireball according to where sim is. I suppose i wasnt thinking when i was playing ibuki. I appriciate you showing me the light. Thank you. Anyone got somethin for chuns footsies?
mantis focus + mantis c.hk goes under her s.hp / s.hk
so you block according to her position on the screen?
But the thing is, doesn’t she always have to be in front of you before she can throw the dagger anyways?
the way it works is that they should trow it right before they go to the other side, like one sec to early you have to block this way because ibuki still on that side, if she does it one sec late she on the other side.
it a guessing game in ibuki favor, and plus for most characters you cant escape it, unless they time it wrong, i mean you can try to focus, but then they can just radia you. plus there option select neckbreaker for anyone with a tele. although they have a better chance of getting away with the tele since sometimes the neckbreaker does not catch them.
im just going on from what i read and what vidoes i saw of ibuki.
I wonder if Gen can EX Roll out. Im’a try it.
If it is meaty, then he cannot.
EX Oga?
nope. the kunai isnt counted as a projectile. its a physical attack hitbox, so projectile invincible moves dont work
that’s the dumbest shyte ever. Can he auto correct Gekiro through the dagger and hit her? is it work trying it? I’m assuming only EX version is work trying and not normal as it’s what like 4 frames start up and if they time it right you only have 1 frame, but EX Gekiro has strike invincibility. I guess just trying to block the damn thing is the only thing Gen has other then trying to FA it, but once again sometimes the timing is way too tight.
If she’s right above your head when you wake up, there’s usually nothing Gen can do about it. If Ibuki spaces it wrong, however, you can usually punish it, with either auto correct Gekiro or super/Ultra. I usually backdash unless the opponent punishes it, since it has the longest strike invincibility aside from super and ultra.
I just got destroyed 8x in arow by a bison who refused to come in my poke range at all. He’s faster, stronger, and can runaway from me the entire match. Also he has 6 hit safe block string’s with jab scissor kick. I read the matchup we have for bison but am hoping someone has more experience. HAlf my moves TRADE with that evil psychopath… I’m heated. How is it all these character’s are faster, stronger, have invincible moves more stun EVERYTHING more then gen. Wtf is that ?? Can I atleast get an invincible move SOMETHING!!!
How was he getting in on you? Jumping? Devils Reverse? Random Scissor kicks?
He spaced me out the entire match… refused to come in on me he stayed out of poke range then turtled. He ould use a fierce round house scissorskick from acros the screen 2 throw me off 2.
RH scissor kick is unsafe. However i get the feeling they can space it out to be safe. When you get the feeling someone is going to do moves like that (balrog dash punch, Akuma st.rh, ect.) just neutral jump and tag their recovery.
yep ibuki the only character who can stop the reversal bullshit that in the game with her kunai.
that why you as gen never never never want ibuki to knock you down. keep her out at all cost, because gen getting pressure by anyone is bad but getting pressure by ibuki and rufus is worst then anything else.
i personally dont have an issue with many bisons. when they do two scissor kicks in a row you can hp-hands. easily done with slide method.
if they do the devils reverse, Free ultra! i recommend staying low against him when playing footsies. you may beable to lower your hitbox out of his s.hk with some time of normal. crane c. mk may work here since it goes under fireballs and such.
bison seems to be one of the easier match ups…what is the match up numbers by the way?
u1 zetsui nabs ibuki when she tries to meaty crossup with the kunai after the neckbreaker.
punch super doesn’t work, kick super avoids it, but hes left hanging in the air and gets owned from there.