If you ever focus absorb Rog’s sweep you should release a level 2 focus because it’s totally free. I like focusing vs Balrog because it punishes people that like to throw out random straights and punishes his best poke. He can start throwing out the smash to counter it but that’s not safe and you can ultra it on reaction or whatever you feel like. TAP is the same way but slower, only he can combo off of it if he breaks focus with it. You can actually release focus before it hits you and get a counter-hit crumple. Balrog has a third armor breaker, the overhead rush punch. This one can actually be a pain because he can combo off of it but I think it still has the same counter-hit problem as TAP and can just be backdashed or whatever. Balrog’s only real reliable way to deal with focus attacks at mid-range is raw ultra or straight xx super on reaction. If you’re too close he can cr.mp xx headbutt but then you already should have been close enough to get something going.
You can really take away a lot of Rog’s tools and make him play your game if he’s scared of you focusing stuff. I’m not saying “focus everything!” But the threat of focus makes a lot of Rog’s game way less solid.
Also I think your s.hp can beat his cr.hk sometimes?
Not much to say other than guess where to block correctly. If he’s going for a lot of cross up tatsu’s you can cross counter them. If he goes for demon flip resets lk duck under and punish.
I play a vortex happy Akuma on a regular basis…
If you don’t want to bother with the nonsense of the vortex… just empty duck out…
also keep super at hand to super cancel if he tries to bait the Duck for his super/ultra.
I think that his head is the only weakpoint there and FADC’ing isn’t fast enough at close range.
well… for me so far I have seen it beat the demon flip throw… (which i hate the most) and somehow instead of auto correcting… it went and switched into a shortswing blow that beat crossover tatsu (i was surprised) I FADC’d and stayed in his face and begun the mixup.
note: results may vary… and vizard2605 cannot be held responsible for any OS’s you may eat by overusing ducking escapes.
p.s. if you have the time… anti-air. I duck instead of falling into blockstrings and tick-throws, because Dudley oki sucks (when he’s staring at the sky)
and yes, rog beats dudley…lol people saying it’s easy are playing really bad balrogs.
dudley seems really powerful if your opponent GIVES you opportunities (hello ridiculous damage) and really weak if you only get 1 to 2 clean opportunities a round (hello good balrog). a smart, patient rog has all the advantages in the match, and dudley is forced to come to him and hopefully get lucky. this match is at least 6-4 balrog. you can’t win this on footsies alone (which rog has an advantage in anyway).
Lets try this. How would you approach a turtling Balrog? The correct answer is turtle him, because none of your options are safe. You straight up lose in footsies, your blockstrings aren’t safe, and focus attack is negative on block. In this matchup, if you aren’t hitting him, you’re losing. Unless of course, you’re winning. This one’s just not in Dudley’s favor dude.
I don’t see it. If this was the same balrog from vanilla then yes. I’d see 6-4. He’d have equal to superior damage as well as superior footsies. As things are now he has the better pokes, but every poke he has can be counter poked. I don’t get to fight the matchup that often in SSF4. The times I have played against good boxers my strategy has held up pretty well. Dictator I see 6-4. Boxer no. I feel like boxer in this matchup.
he is basically the same character…he does good damage within the game, everyone received damage nerfs, yes dudley does above average damage, WHEN HE GETS CLEAN HITS. which are extremely difficult to come by against a good balrog, who basically never has to put himself at risk unless he makes a big mistake.
confidence and character love are all well and cool, but realism is cooler. it’s not an unwinnable match, by any means, but balrog clearly has the advantage, it’s called risk/reward.
Trt rogs i just duck with nothing and grab him… that’s it… if he’s pokin, duck-straight, or get some space, duck-empty-overhead… it’s a lot of options, but usually i can manage.
I understand that you think that boxer is better in this matchup. This is not about character love. This is me thinking Dudley is better. Not easier but better. Execution is at premium with Dudley. Someone who’s opinion I highly regard told me boxer is easier to use, but Dudley will be regarded as the better character when it’s all said done. I still believe that to true. But I guess we just disagree.
Yes you can, but i meant with good space… we all know duck is not invincible (it can sometimes pass by chun li HK, Roses’s df MK, but it’s not invincible. If you space right, and rog is poking with LP, you can duck-straight to counterpoke, that’s what i meant.
even if you wanna make the argument that dudley is better than balrog in a head to head match, he just isnt the better character overall. for the simple reason that balrog has some of the best footsie in the game and dudley has some of the worst. every tier list has placed balrog at lowest A tier while every tier list has placed Dudley at best B tier, and that has continued to drop further down as the game gets older.
i dont know any decent balrog’s that will just throw jabs when he’s not in range, and even then i dont think anyone is gonna be on point enough to punish balrog’s standing or crouching jab’s, and that move is not safe on block if you don’t space it right so except a s.lp xx c.rh combo from a good balrog.
PS: i think bison is a 5-5 matchup. after some tested it seems that OS safe jump Ducking beats most of bison’s wakeup move’s, you can punish ex PC with EX MGB, and teleports can be reacted to and punished. what it wont beat is U1, ex Double Knee Press, and Devil’s reverse(it’s a neutral escape so there’s no punish to be had)
We have had a concise tier list since when??? The only tier I’ve seen that looks somewhat agreeable is the Japanese tier that came out. On that they hadn’t ranked any new characters. All match ups where even across the board regarding new characters. We all know everyone thought Dudley was gonna be vanilla sagat. When people got the game and realized this was false he dropped in peoples opinion. Regardless any tier that comes out won’t mean shit until 1-2 yrs. Dudley doesn’t have footsies? If you mean shoto cr mk, sagat hk, or bison hk/mk then no. He doesn’t have abuse able footsies. He has solid counter footsies. Cr mk, st mk, hp, fwd hp, hk, mp. He has situational footsies like chun li but for the purpose of getting in. All I know is that I’m not having any problem with boxer regardless of who I’ve played.