That is a cool buff
Nerfing damage and backdash dumb
Does the wiki mention invinc on ex st?
Maybe they changed some frame data up.
I thought Vega was fine as is but w/e
Let ppl think Vega needs invinc to be good, as if he isn’t already
btw where are you guys seeing these vega changes?
The rcf not being combo-able from cr.jab is no big deal. As long as cr.mp does we’re good. Just cr.lpxxcr.mpxxmp.rcf.
Can you say chip pressureeee? XP besides the dash being nerfed will just mean we’ll have to up our blocking skills 
I say we’re doing ok so far
My thoughts exactly which is why I was so pissed when I saw changes to him. I know that there are some people saying that he could be better, but think he’s just fine. If he gets invincibility on ex st, he’s going to lose a lot of his uniqueness in my opinion…
Some of these changes they apparently made to everyone seem like their taking random suggestions from the whiners in the Capcom Unity forum.
Yeah, I agree…he was fine as is.
These changes won’t be implemented until next year huh? 
Yes, uniquely shit. By all means dont use ex.st if you think the current vega is fine.
Capcom are fixing holes in his game and ex.st might be a drastic one which is probably why dash was nerfed along with fba to keep things in balance.
I’ve always said either improve his AA normals, backflip or i frames on ex.st because he needs at least one of those to stop getting destroyed in a rushdown. If bison can have ex.stomp, ex.devil, ex.psycho, ex.scissors, teleport, U1 AND THAT FUCKING st.HK then vega can have one of those things.
His AA normals are actually quite nice already. Which Vega are you playing?
He also has a very nice air throw.
cr.hp wrecks fat fuck honda. problem, shit whiffs if its not spaced to the last inch. with that said. Fuck you Honda!!! Jump in on me now bitch see how you like eating shit!
to everyone else, bitches fuck you. Now you have to safe jump my ass everytime. 4 frame reversal for the win. Top tier Vega :rock:
fuck yeah!
He has viable AA options if you look hard enough. But the ST is gonna be better served as a ‘‘don’t shit on me on wakeup’’ move.
There will actually be reason to be weary of his wakeup game now if you choose to use BHC. So maybe this makes BHC a more used ultra? I don’t know, maybe
Lol @ uniquely shit. Yes, Vega is god-awful right now, but once we get true reversal EX ST, then we’ll be godlike!
I actually really like the sound of that buff though. It can only help. Also, I don’t see how giving him an actual reversal makes him less unique.
yeah. I just made a long post, but it got erased somewhere, and just forget it.
Main Idea: Bandwagoners piss me off.
What kind of bandwagoners?
ppl looooove to make vega sound so much worse than he actually is
tons of bullshit. “god awful?” hell no
vega is like, totally middle of the road
if i’m looking to play a good game, ideally i’d like it to be balanced well
for that matter, if i know one character, ideally i’d like him to be balanced well
middle of the pack is just fine with me, and that’s pretty much where he is
the fact that “vega free on wakeup” is still even being discussed is completely stupid
vega gets punishes (BIG punishes AND untechable knockdowns meaning safe jumps AND frame traps AND MORE untechable knockdowns) where other characters can’t even dream of changing the pace of battle. “hole in his gameplay?” dude, he’s balanced with being free on wakeup in mind. How do you guys not understand that? on his feet Vega is stronger than a vast amount of this games characters.
I’m not saying EX ST is going to make him broken or anything (he definitely will be high tier, if not top with that. it’s very easy to hold onto your meter w vega) but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. all of his matchups are completely do-able, not to mention there are some where he wins outright (cody, makoto, t hawk, hakan, gouken, dhalsim). how can ppl even think that EX ST is an absolute must at this point in time?
if vega gets EX ST (especially at the cost of nerfed izuna damage) then i’ll be disappointed. I’ll just play lame (again i’m so puzzled here, everyone has this vendetta against turtle characters and what do you think vega with meter is gonna become? fuckin honda but with far better footsies) and that’s not as fun as what he’s got going right now.
seriously, the idea of me taking any damage with four meter stocked is completely absurd
some of those already good matchups for vega are definitely going to become 7-3’s barring other drastic fixes, and vega will definitely have his 6-4’s become 5’s. he’ll be a high tier character, definitely. And again, i’m arguing in favor of balance and if vega is in the middle of the pack on nearly every tier list (or at least the japanese one which is the only one that makes sense, really) then why ask for such a huge change? think about his matchups, like, for a second bangmango.
Well so far we’ve gotten
Nerfed backdash
Nerfed damage on FBA
Buffed EX ST
Buffed mp.RCF
I can live with that. So our backdash is not as good but that’ll just make our defensive skills as a player more solid, so in a way i see that as a positive. And that’s coming from someone who uses them ALOT.
The nerfed damage on fbas hurts, but we already did alot of damage so i don’t think it will be relatively weak. We were kinda spoiled with such high damage/fairly easy BnBs. So it hurts a little but i’ll get over it.
The buffed ST helps our wakeup game, sorry but that’s fucking cash. I’ll take that everyday of the week. Now we have two wakeup options, whereas we had zero before Super. Tyvmcapcom
And last but not least, the quicker startup on mp.rcf is really gonna add a small, but new dimension to Vega’s offense imo. The ability to apply safe chip pressure and to control the screen at our leisure. Driving our opponent to the corner and getting considerable damage in blockstrings is gonna be great when they have to worry about kara throw mixups/PoM-sweep high low mixups/tick throws.
That is if all these changes make it…which i kinda hope they do…
So i know get to push my opponent into the corner easily now with mp.RCF, and know when they knock me down and stop my momentum, i can now stop them knock them down and continue my offense again? An mixed with his ridicioulus ground game. Top Tier here we come!!! Im sorry, but i like my characters being really great, like amazingly great. I just dont go out of my way to choose top tier though. Shit players, always be shit players, no matter how good the character.
Pretty much, Vega getting knocked down now just fucks over any momentum we had. At least for me. But with this buff that shouldn’t be the case anymore
Idgaf about tiers, i’m choosing Vega. I chose him right before Super was released and he was practically the worst at that time. Looks like the dedication may pay off x)
7-3 matchup to vega? lol yes maybe in sf4 rainbow edition. I like how everyone is making out ex.st is going to magically make vega top tier. First of all it requires a back charge limiting its use compared to for example a flashkick. It also requires ex-meter and we all know how important ex meter is to vega’s game. Just look at the competition bison, honda, chun li, ryu all top tier and look at the tools they have and you’re saying 1 ex db charge move is going to turn vega into a bison. Look at the match up thread and look at the complaints about vs those common characters an ex.st wont fix all that.
Hes already nerfed twice presumably to compensate for the buff. Why would else would capcom buff him and nerf dash and fba. All that will change is shift the balance of vega’s gameplay from shithouse defense to better defense/more survivability and slightly less offence.
well, you do make a point. Although I think you’re underestimating how good EX ST is going to make things. seriously, with 4 ex stock (and i am just going to hold on to it if i have life leads now) nobody is ever gonna get in. like pedo said, with vega’s already god like pokes? seriously, whats stopping me from mashing c. mp counter poke? now, it was if you did that, if someone jumped over it you were forced to block. hence you actually had to play proper footsies. now, if it whiffs anyways, just let the EX ST go. shit is gonna be so lame.
I suppose it’s great that Vega’s getting better but whatever, it’s going to make him one hell of an easy character to play
Nothing else to say…
idk if your being sarcastic or serious…