SSF4 AE Ryu

For the cross up air tatsu in AE. Next time you are going to block an jump in and is not sure if it’ll be a normal jump in or cross up air tatsu, do a normal block first, and then switch to down forward in split second. The timing is about a sonic boom’s motion. It’ll be fast enough to block both. If you blocked the normal attack, then it’s not necessary to do the sonic boom motion.

Knock back on block is definitely increased by a bit for ryu. Enough to disrupt and change the play style somewhat. You can’t really pressure as hard up close anymore. You would notice this if you are using knock back distance as part of your spacing game. This means that mid distance zoning is more effective, but rush down is less effective somewhat.

Yeah, now I recall I was playing against makoto and guile when I test that sweep into deep jump in. After many tries, I gave up. Perhaps it’s only those 2 that could jump back attack on wake up. Gotta check that out.

Didn’t test that cr.mk on balrog. I noticed that balrog seems to be really weak now without his headbutt into ultra though.

FA on cr.mk? Fought many Sagat that attempts to do that. Those FA all failed so far. Maybe it is possible, just that it is harder now. Sagat is still shit. Ryu still own him like super.

You can’t really anticipation jump on cr.mk now. I used to be forced into blocking some of those jump in. Now it’s like 100% anti-air. That’s why cr.mk is really god like now and ppl have no real answer to it. Zangief included. He can’t really SPD your cr.mk as easily as before. It’s not as easy as what ppl suggest even when zangiel’s spd have increased in distance. But a Zangief with U2 - LOL~ ryu gotta be worried.

The twins are definitely very bad match up. They have far superior pokes that mix up and combo, dive kicks are shoto killers if used properly. And no, if properly used, you can’t punish those dive kicks on block. The only good news is that there is a minimum air height for twin’s dive kick unlike rufus. They can run away and close in on ryu in a flash. With ryu losing his mobility, out poked and that fb don’t work on twins, he’s basically free. I’m mauling 99.9% of the twins user out there, but it more because they are not familiar with them and still training. Those whom use the twins well… Hard.

FA lands more often now. I’m basically abusing this while experimenting. Also, it’s either the case that some charc special moved changed, or it’s the case that FA is faster (I’m not sure), but FA does counter hit more often on special move.

You can still win using ryu from beginner - advance level. But he won’t be competitive from what I see. The other charc have much higher potential. Basically cr.mk into fireball is gg to be 90% of ryu’s play now due to knock back increase.

The game is so slow pace now, that I’m often yawning while playing. Honest - no kidding. I missed vanilla and super. Guess I’ll play on-line more often though it lags.

are you sure your sweeps weren’t counter hits because if they were that’s probably the reason why they could jump back

I’m not 100% sure about the sweep thinggy. Gotta test more. I’m not fully accustomed to the slower game yet, so I’m not fully confident on my execution also.

Wait a sec… You mean a counter hit sweep can be jumped back? Didn’t know that.

At super, Ryu´s air tatsu dont hit a crouched Ryu, so I just switch to down back when i see its a tatsu, and then free combo time. Do you defended an air tatsu while crouching, or did it miss?

Cross up tatsu when done properly in all version, hits crouching opponent. It’s same for AE. U get a either a block or whiff.

cr mk still works on rog. But now he has jump mp I think it is? On KND I noticed rog players doing that to throw people off.

That is the exact reason why i felt that his c.mk would be a buff all along. I was playing last night against an abel and every time I c.mk incorrectly I ate a combo.

In regards to the extra pushback, do you think that different blockstrings will be more effective or maybe different frame traps?

has anyone tried to combo far s.mp xx hado fadc u2?

hey you are right, ive tested here and the air tatsu can hit crouchers. It miss them only when Ryu aims for the head (an early tatsu), but in any case its better to defend with forward/down as you said, and if it dont hit, you punish him afterwards.

Yeah, Cr.lp hit confirm into Cr.mp miss more often now. So if I use Cr.lp to hit confirm, I often link it to st.mp or Cr.mk now.
Didn’t try U2 combo…

Does DP > FADC > Ex tatsu hit all the way now? I know it works on fatter characters like Hakan in Super.

^ AA SRK FADC 4-hit EX Tatsu…? Always did work as far as im aware. Ive used it for a long time. I havent specifically tested it against all characters, but Ive also never had a problem hitting it so long as the timing is right.

Played AE last night.

Ryu sucks… I saw sanford play him and he feels the same way. I don’t know if it was me but I couldn’t throw out cr mk on whiff as a person jumps I couldn’t dp. Annoying as hell.

^ Are you talking about the OS DP… as in C.MK> O.S FB / SRK…? could just be timing thing with the new C.MK properties…?

yup exactly. Either that or the new sticks are butt. Henry got the exact cabs that are in japan. Forgot what they were called.

Should be sanwa JLFs in there. I’m spacing on the name, too, for some reason lol. I haven’t even been smoking lately either.

the vewlix cabs? >< not sure LOL…

so whos jumping ship :confused: ??

Di,

yeah thats what they are.

I’m interested in the changes to the recovery of Jab Shoryuken, as Air seems to pull off a ground Jab Shoryuken into Super in this video at 1:04.

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So, Valle’s statement of it only affecting extended combos into Jab Shoryuken is probably correct.

Daigo , Tokido, Mago tier list … Ryu not in their top 10. Sorry guys.

Personally, might rep Ken and Makoto, dependant on how much I like playing the new characters. Not only cause Ryu isnt that good (apparently), but Ive been looking for a new main for a while and Makoto is such an interesting character. What do you guys think?