Hey guys, sorry I was completely not around yesterday, but the car that I was riding in back home from pax broke down in the middle of the interstate in washington, and it was a whole big emergency to get everything fixed up to get back home.
That being said, I am now back at home and ready to WIM it up. I’m going to go back through the thread and re-read all the posts more carefully, and put up some thoughts. If anyone else is around right now, I’d love to chat as well
Chat? I’m around. Aside from the car breaking down, how was pax?
Were all wrong at some point or another. That’s what this game is all about.
You have to pressure people to get information. Anything fishy should be pointed out. Always. That’s part of the fun.
Don’t hold back. Just dive in and point fingers.
Jesus Toast on Fake Willy
PreGame
[details=Spoiler]Adamant he doesn’t want to play, gets “bullied” into playing and eventually gives in
Claims he has 0 ability to read people and 0 mafia experience. "I don’t think you get it. I can’t play this kind of game. There’s too much of a human factor involved."
Never posted past page 3 of the signups thread (Kinda distancing himself from the game)[/details]
Game Start
[details=Spoiler]Checks in with post making light joke towards the only confirmed civ (Fuzz)
DukeC says William is “Flailing around in the dark,” William says “Thats an understatement” even though this is his second post and nothing has happened yet
When pressed for vote, says he doesnt want to lynch based on speculation, and again says "Might not be my kind of game…"
Points out formatting issue that broke the thread; still nothing contributing to the game
No Lynches day 1 (staying neutral)
Page 10, wants to know what Wallflowering is
Says he wont lynch without 100% proof somebody is guilty
Page 12 (one of the lowest post counts btw) says “Getting off for the night, has a few suspicions”. Kind of random because he wasn’t actively participating in the thread, so why announce he’s getting off?
Asked by JasonC to tell his suspicions, next day he says “Oh thought about it overnight and back to square one.” Wanted to Lynch Cynt and Bious, but said he had no factual reason to. Counters his earlier statement of "Doesnt want to lynch on speculation"
No Lynches Day 2 (Staying Neutral)
Apparently prodded out of inactivity, “Fine you want baseless accusations? Lynch Bious” Said he didnt want to play anyway, but was forced to
Said he will stay outta mafia games once this one is done
Said hes following the thread, but nothing stands out, nothing makes sense, hasn’t played Clue (who hasnt played clue?!)
Brings up how neutral he was again by saying “My voting record is flawless because I no lynched twice”
“It doesn’t make any sense to me.” Playing clueless.
"Too many variables to consider, too many possibilities, too much uncertainty, I can’t work with this"
Afraid of being wrong, says he doesnt want to kill somebody like we did with Oz
"I wanted no part in this"
I offer to lynch him.
Resists, "Lynching me would be pointless. I’d DQ myself but people would still pester me about it"
Despite me offering him an out for a game “He doesnt get and doesn’t want a part of,” he wants to stay in. Says I will learn the “Hard” way
Posting way more frequently (Monday, maybe why? Holiday/no work?)
Consistent of his suspicion on Bious at least
Say’s he building a Data Sheet
Dumps info on me. Suddenly he’s capable of “reading” people. Mafia help perhaps? Or just actually getting into the game finally?
Posts vote tally (contributing something finally)
“Not convinced Synonym is mafia, not sure on Pimp Willy” feels like distancing himself from the pending lynch while trying to get on my good side
"Will No Lynch a 3rd time"
AC tries to get Will off his no lynch by offering to vote for the same person Will does to double it
Will checks if JasonC is still voting for Cynt, gets a “yes"
Decides to “Do Something”, votes Cyntalan – Why would somebody whos afraid of making a mistake suddenly be willing to make a move that has DOUBLE the chance of being game changing?
Syn lynched, comes up Civ
"Foolish Fools Foolishly throwing around foolish accusations… Guess I was right, Syn was not mafia. Let’s grill people who haven’t said much.” – Says this AFTER being silent for the majority of the game, steps it up at the end of the last phase, suddenly wants to call out the other low posters?[/details]
Overall Read:
Lord William started the game being as Neutral as possible. Not wanting to vote, not wanting to post, not wanting to step on anybodies toes. Why was this? He was most likely dormant.
Day 3, he took a HUGE shift and got involved – posting more, calling people out, etc.
Conclusion?
I personally believe he was OZ’s lover, and day 3 he became mafia, asked for tips, and changed up his gameplay accordingly
(Or he was just a dormant recruited night 2, which would make it 5 mafia we’re dealing with)
Cursory evidence that stood out to me as I skimmed the thread made me think JasonC is the dormant lover, but after reviewing the evidence, I think it may be William.
Pretty sure one of those 2 is gonna be our dormant lover, I think William shows patterns of being a dormant that was recruited, though its highly likely this is clouded by this being his first game and afraid of making the wrong move – the perfect cover, as it turns out, for his pattern of behavior. Mafia could have been smart enough to search for the “Neutral” players day 1 looking for dormants and recruited him night 2, if he wasn’t the Dormant Lover.
Yo, PAX was pretty sweet, got to play a lot of fun games. It was super tiring, but kinda in a good way.
What are your thoughts on BK, DG, and Bious?
Hey, this seems like a solid case, and something that I’m going to look into, but regarding the dormant lover discussion, did anyone bring up the part where OZ voted for BK instead of trying to self prez by voting augustus or synonym? That part doesn’t make much sense to me (although admittedly neither does pretty much any of how he handled that claim).
DG is the most suspect out of the three of them. I read him as dormant.
It’s like Willy hasn’t heard of LW’s reputation before… his lack of knowledge and experience with all things existing between 1980 and today is astounding. I made a thread dedicated to that shit because of how mindboggling it is.
Would you say that this read is based more on tone or content?
Cynt, can you link the thread?
Fuck, that reminds me I left out the biggest sin
HE HAS AN MLP AVATAR!
He doesnt know clue but he knows smash and MLP?
Lynch this fool
That thread makes me believe hes acting way more autistic than he really is, and the entire personality has been a charade
Yo Pimp, do you keep charts during mafia games?
A charade lasting so long just to waiting to get dragged into our mafia games just to use it on the off chance it’d help him being believed to be a civ? Now THAT is some serious Jesus Toast™.
Negative, I’m more of a gut and feeling player. Same way with fighting games.
“How many frames am I negative on block?” They ask me
"I dunno, I just know I can c.mk into super when I block it" I respond
Frame data should not need be recalled.
You mind tellin me what your top 2 suspicions are? Just off the top of your head, aside from LW (who i assume is your #1)
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You sure you want that? My top 3 suspicions were all civ, 2 were power roles. Why anybody would listen to my advice is beyond me