^classic mafia save-my-ass giant wall of ‘logic’.
this wall of text was planned out extensively, I tell you all.
With input. From fellow mafia.
^classic mafia save-my-ass giant wall of ‘logic’.
this wall of text was planned out extensively, I tell you all.
With input. From fellow mafia.
#2 I can agree on right now.
I’m heading off. Night.
Response to 1: Yes I have been rushed. It’s not how I play these games, but life has been forcing me to be rushed. I work both Saturday and Sunday this weekend while having a mini-exam on Monday and two separate 2 page papers due Tuesday. 2 Page papers aren’t hard in the least bit, but they still take time.
Response to 2: I never was certain that SAD was guilty, so I put my vote to him. Votes aren’t just to kill people; they play a much more important role. How does someone react when you vote them? How do they play the upcoming days? Do they ignore or question the voter? Who else responds? You can learn a lot from just voting someone. I don’t intend on voting SAD this phase, in fact I agree with him that OZ looks more suspicious. No one seemed particularly interested in MY voting for SAD. People still look at him, but if he was mafia there would probably be at least a few people trying to take attention off of him.
Response to 3: Why are you in such a rush to kill me? I love the oh so typical “Vigi if you want to trust me once more can you take a pot-shot at Oerba tonight?” line, what entices you to kill me so much?
There are many quiet players this time around, much more than when I first started playing mafia games. If anything though whenever anyone asks me what I’m thinking I will answer. Not going to lie, I don’t care too much about mafia games till midgame, and the past two games I have been killed very early.
My attention has drifted towards the OZ and MP spat, although unfortunately I don’t have much to go by since OZ hasn’t responded yet. OZ has more stuff against him than for him, where MP has made a conscious effort to respond to many posts. That to me looks like someone who isn’t nearly afraid as a mafia would be of making a mistake. OZ on the other hand is going to include DukeC into his defense, which I’m interested in hearing. So my vote this phase is looking to be OZ, unless I find his defense proves otherwise. If so, back to the drawing board.
Response to 1: Yes I have been rushed. It’s not how I play these games, but life has been forcing me to be rushed. I work both Saturday and Sunday this weekend while having a mini-exam on Monday and two separate 2 page papers due Tuesday. 2 Page papers aren’t hard in the least bit, but they still take time.
Response to 2: I never was certain that SAD was guilty, so I put my vote to him. Votes aren’t just to kill people; they play a much more important role. How does someone react when you vote them? How do they play the upcoming days? Do they ignore or question the voter? Who else responds? You can learn a lot from just voting someone. I don’t intend on voting SAD this phase, in fact I agree with him that OZ looks more suspicious. No one seemed particularly interested in MY voting for SAD. People still look at him, but if he was mafia there would probably be at least a few people trying to take attention off of him.
Response to 3: Why are you in such a rush to kill me? I love the oh so typical “Vigi if you want to trust me once more can you take a pot-shot at Oerba tonight?” line, what entices you to kill me so much?
There are many quiet players this time around, much more than when I first started playing mafia games. If anything though whenever anyone asks me what I’m thinking I will answer. Not going to lie, I don’t care too much about mafia games till midgame, and the past two games I have been killed very early.
My attention has drifted towards the OZ and MP spat, although unfortunately I don’t have much to go by since OZ hasn’t responded yet. OZ has more stuff against him than for him, where MP has made a conscious effort to respond to many posts. That to me looks like someone who isn’t nearly afraid as a mafia would be of making a mistake. OZ on the other hand is going to include DukeC into his defense, which I’m interested in hearing. So my vote this phase is looking to be OZ, unless I find his defense proves otherwise. If so, back to the drawing board.
Your confidence is admirable, as is your defence. But I see through it.
The “oh so typical” request has done me wonders in the past.
I know how baiting people with a lynch vote works. It’s how I landed your teammate DukeC day 2.
You say you don’t care about these games until mid-game so why are you a valuable asset? For someone who claims to love observing you’ve overlooked a lot of patterns in people’s behaviours. OZ’s behaviour is, on the surface, that of someone guilty. But you ignore his speech patterns, thought process etc. that you become accustomed to after playing with him a few times. I know I spent most of last game with tunnel vision for OZ but hopefully this time I’ve gained a bit of perspective.
Really though, your defence of yourself has boiled down to “you shouldn’t lynch me because… I’ve been busy. Not that I normally care about early game. Oh, and my contributions thus far? Ignore those. I promise to be more helpful in the future. Or at least past mid-game.”
You will live through today, I am almost certain. The other civs are too blinded by OZ to look at you, but hopefully the vigi will place his trust in me.
Fuzz is acting differently this game.
Lynch RadicalFuzz
Fuck your inb4’s.
Aidebit:
Oh right, Lynch: RadicalFuzz.
Where’s my prize, AC?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/aidebit's%20award.png
Yes, I do have multiple awards available, but Aidebit gets the best one because he was first.
Aidebit:
AlphaCommando:
Fuzz is acting differently this game.
Lynch RadicalFuzz
Fuck your inb4’s.
RadicalFuzz:
inb4 Alpha voting to lynch me.
RadicalFuzz:
I’m headed out for work, won’t be back for about 9 and a half or ten hours, and I’ll be damn tired so don’t expect much from me until tomorrow.
Vynce:
DukeC
Oerba
Hecatom
AidebitAre you about done with your check-in posts?
Damn, the thread’s only been up for maybe an hour and you’re already calling people out on not having checked in. Chill bro B)
This is all that RF has said. Sounds like typical Fuzz/Fluff/Flyff to me. What makes you suspect him, AC?
Also, thanks, I needed a certificate.
‘Fuzz is acting differently this game’ is a callback to SRK vs. EOW, which was a callback to Resident Evil.
Synonym:
I will not be lynching RF day 1 for no good reason.
This game is going to rely an awful lot more on skill than on old vendettas.
Getting a prize is a very good reason.
Bious:
AC, unless you were joking, I’m lynching you today.
Let’s put it this way. Unless someone posts something along the lines of “I’m Mafia and here is a list of all my comrades.”, then I’ll be locking in my vote for Fuzz.
GodotsRevenge:
AlphaCommando:
Aidebit:
Oh right, Lynch: RadicalFuzz.
Where’s my prize, AC?
Yes, I do have multiple awards available, but Aidebit gets the best one because he was first.
How long is Aidebit granted the title of “not a faget”? For life? For this game? For as long as you don’t edit out the post. This is very important for the next coming phases, so answer carefully.
For the entirity of this game.
Bious:
Aidebit:
Bious:
Waiting for Fuzz before I go in on Alpha. Don’t lock votes yet people.
Fuzz won’t be back for a while, apparently. Better start preparing your case against AC in case Fuzz gets too tired to make counter-arguments. (as he mentioned in his post)
Fine, Alpha knows more than he’s letting on. Every game he tries to lead a day 1 lynch he’s been Mafia and I feel that’s the case here.
You’re bad at pattern recognition and you should feel bad.
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
Aidebit:
Bious:
Waiting for Fuzz before I go in on Alpha. Don’t lock votes yet people.
Fuzz won’t be back for a while, apparently. Better start preparing your case against AC in case Fuzz gets too tired to make counter-arguments. (as he mentioned in his post)
Fine, Alpha knows more than he’s letting on. Every game he tries to lead a day 1 lynch he’s been Mafia and I feel that’s the case here.
You’re bad at pattern recognition and you should feel bad.
I’m sorry, what exactly did you do the two games you were Mafia phase 1 (besides getting you ass handed to you by me and Fuzz respectively)?
I didn’t lynch Fuzz day 1.
ForgeDigger:
Fuzz works until the wee hours of the morning, guys. Everyone that played epicmafia last night can attest to that. Calm down.
Alright so here’s some food for thought: if not Fuzz day one, then who? I do not condone his lynch and I don’t think he has any solid evidence against him. That said, no one else particularly sticks out to me. Alpha always does the whole “Lynch Fuzz day 1” thing ever since the monster game incident.
I’m more curious as to why Aidebit wants to see him dead. Same with MP. Could you expound on your decision?
For MP, I made him promise to lynch Fluff Day 1 of the next game (this one) in exchange for GR’s write-up in the SRK vs. EOW game. It’s good to see him holding up his end of the deal.
Bious:
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
Aidebit:
Bious:
Waiting for Fuzz before I go in on Alpha. Don’t lock votes yet people.
Fuzz won’t be back for a while, apparently. Better start preparing your case against AC in case Fuzz gets too tired to make counter-arguments. (as he mentioned in his post)
Fine, Alpha knows more than he’s letting on. Every game he tries to lead a day 1 lynch he’s been Mafia and I feel that’s the case here.
You’re bad at pattern recognition and you should feel bad.
I’m sorry, what exactly did you do the two games you were Mafia phase 1 (besides getting you ass handed to you by me and Fuzz respectively)?
Didn’t say you did.
In the DR game you tried to lynch CK and probably would’ve had MP not screwed up early. I blew you up after that. Vampire game you got Jones lynched day 1 and Fuzz lynched you after. You have a history of trying to push day one lynches as Mafia. If it came down to you or Fuzz I’d rather it be you due to your actions (plus you went right for him at pregame right after we got roles.)
http://www.danclarkie.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/this-fucking-guy.jpg
Time to get my logical fallacy chart out.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/Logic/The%20Texas%20Sharpshooter.jpg
Well done on ignoring the past three or so games where I’ve been Civ and pushed for Fuzz’s lynch Day 1 though.
If that’s how you want to interpret my vote, fine. Let’s see how you interpret my Day 1 Fuzz Lynch in the next 5 or so games.
Either way, I’ll leave it up to everyone else to decide whether you have a case or not. If they believe you in thinking that lynching Fuzz Day 1 is Mafia behaviour, then there’ll be nothing I can do to defend myself.
Missing_Person:
Well, once again, sorry if you’re civ, but I made a deal.
Lynch RadicalFuzz
Even though you were only doing this contractually, you still get a reward.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/mp's%20award.png
Blindknagg:
I want to lynch bloody now just because of his av lol.
Bitch please, bloodymess gets MVP Avatar for this game.
kaz:
AlphaCommando
May I have that Missing Person paint picture? It must be my new AV. Missing Person knows it was by far the funniest thing that has happened on SRK since the STA saga. Well, with the exception of people paying for that one person who was taking pictures to go to EVO.
Only if you promise to Lynch Fuzz in the next Mafia game.
Missing_Person:
AlphaCommando:
Missing_Person:
Well, once again, sorry if you’re civ, but I made a deal.
Lynch RadicalFuzz
Even though you were only doing this contractually, you still get a reward.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/mp's%20award.png
I’m still not happy with that.
That stage should’ve had two circles with poles instead of one.
This my last day in the States, so I’m trying to spend it with people. Once I get back to Asia, I’ll be more apt to delve into this game.
Had to take the second circle away because you didn’t sound enthused by being forced to lynch Fuzz.
A loincloth? I’m insulted, Fluff. Why would I make it harder on myself to dip my testicles in your pudding?
orochizoolander:
pietastic:
Hihihi
Been waiting to share this one, couldn’t share last two games because I’ve been mafia. This is the perfect game for it, since there’s so much uncertainty on mafia and roles.
Thoughts on following this strategy, with the order listed in Kaz’s first post? I think it’s worth a shot.
http://abstractfactory.blogspot.com/2005/08/how-commoners-can-beat-mafia-most-of.html
For the TL;DR crowd, it’s picking a truly random order to lynch people in, and not deviating.
It’s an interesting idea, but we have a lot of smart players here who could easily subvert the plan to their advantage like how bious suggested, also there is the chance you could be mafia wanting this plan to get traction because most mafia are at the bottom of the list. I’m all for plans like these, but not when they decide the entire game from day 1, I like to think that last gasps help civs more than hurt them in the long run, so to disregard the words of confirmed civs seems counter productive. Also we are in the fucking dark as far as roles go, any plan that disregards crucial game changers like that is shooting ourselves in the foot.
Yo @kaz this reminds me of the early mafia games, I can’t believe it’s been almost 10 years since the first one, there was a period in the middle where I was getting a little lazy, which is reflected in my lack of points lol, but the old OZ has been back for the past few games and been on a roll. I’ll come up with yet another crazy, risky, but smart move this time that you can be sure of.
And please guys, just no fluff posts? I love this game to death, but let’s try to keep it under 100 new pages a day? Thanks I’d really appreciate it.
Okay down to brass tax, off the bat I’d like to say I’m leaning towards voting aidebit if only because in just about every game he’s been in role or not he’s very passive and quiet like a slightly more active CK, so him making some bold posts day 1 just stand out as different to me, either he has a role that’s motivating him to speak up early or he’s mafia.
Brass tacks*
DukeC:
Question(s) here. If a mafia happens to be lynched Day 1, wouldn’t that increase the chances of them surviving into the end game? Or would that be considered a win for the Civs because they might hit someone important? Trying to look at this from a percentage/odds viewpoint.
I… don’t follow.
Wait, don’t answer that. I understand now.
Skizzz:
DukeC:
Question(s) here. If a mafia happens to be lynched Day 1, wouldn’t that increase the chances of them surviving into the end game? Or would that be considered a win for the Civs because they might hit someone important? Trying to look at this from a percentage/odds viewpoint.
I’m confused about what you mean by that. Like, we can only win by killing all the mafia, how could killing a mafia make it harder for us to win?
He’s saying that Mafia have less chance of being hit at 4/20 as opposed to 5/19. Statistically, it isn’t actually a bad option for them to sacrifice a member on the first day.
There’s a benefit to Mafia sacrificing one of their own early on that you’re overlooking.
DarkGeneral:
AlphaCommando:
There’s a benefit to Mafia sacrificing one of their own early on that you’re overlooking.
*Not that, where are you getting the number 4 if they sacrifice one of their members. *
That was directed at Skizzz, but I was just using those numbers (5 Mafia, 20 Civs) as an example.
DarkGeneral:
AlphaCommando:
DarkGeneral:
AlphaCommando:
There’s a benefit to Mafia sacrificing one of their own early on that you’re overlooking.
*Not that, where are you getting the number 4 if they sacrifice one of their members. *
That was directed at Skizzz, but I was just using those numbers (5 Mafia, 20 Civs) as an example.
*Is that all, because I’m not completely buying your reasoning. We have more than 25 players. *
I just pulled 20 and 5 out of thin air to make the maths nicer to look at. OCD > Realism.
Bious:
Hmm.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/Master%20Baiter.png
You might wanna try some different bait. Nobody’s biting.
Missing_Person:
50/50 on Alpha right now, he could be either way now.
Surely you of all people would know that I was going to vote to lynch Fluff Day 1.
Gotcha. :tup:
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
Hmm.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/Master%20Baiter.png
You might wanna try some different bait. Nobody’s biting.
That’s not helping your cause buddy. Shall we reenact your bukake scene Sonia?
Gee, I sure am trying hard not to piss you off.
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
Hmm.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/Master%20Baiter.png
You might wanna try some different bait. Nobody’s biting.
That’s not helping your cause buddy. Shall we reenact your bukake scene Sonia?
Gee, I sure am trying hard not to piss you off.
Keep talking please. You’ve been throwing the distraction ball around all day so it’s nice to see actual content off of your posts.
I know you must be feeling good about that Hunger Games win, but goddamn. Keep ignoring everyone else’s opinions like you always do.
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
Hmm.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/Master%20Baiter.png
You might wanna try some different bait. Nobody’s biting.
That’s not helping your cause buddy. Shall we reenact your bukake scene Sonia?
Gee, I sure am trying hard not to piss you off.
Keep talking please. You’ve been throwing the distraction ball around all day so it’s nice to see actual content off of your posts.
I know you must be feeling good about that Hunger Games win, but goddamn. Keep ignoring everyone else’s opinions like you always do.
That doesn’t have anything to do with this. Now try again and stay on topic this time. I believe you still haven’t given reasons as to why you SHOULDN’T be lynched.
I’m the suspect here. It lies on the defence to provide evidence. Have you got anything more substantial than ‘he’s doing that thing he’s done in every game since X’. Right now, all I see is conjecture.
As much as I like the idea of you dying, I disagree with that plan. Losing 2 Civs isn’t optimal, even on the first two days. Yes, I think you’re Civ, but your opinion is worthless to me for the remainder of this game.
Don’t know why I keep responding, everyone else in the thread recognises that you don’t have a case.
Just as a recap for everyone:
Bious: "Alpha is guilty because I said so."
Alpha: “I’m innocent because I said so.”
The Jester role has to get himself lynched to win.
NO PAGE 8 POSTS
Excellent. I’ve got my Day 2 lynch target.
So about that Day 2 lynch target…
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Missing_Person:
How many mafia are in this sucker? Do we know?
Alpha confirmed that there were 5 a couple of pages back.
The most logical conclusion I can come to from this post is that you’re Mafia. Just to confirm my suspicions, did you lock in your vote for Aidebit before or after posting this?
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Pie is going to have a lot to answer for this time around
Does this sound familiar, MP? Think Resident Evil.
RadicalFuzz:
- What do you three think of OZ’s post in nighttime? Do you think it was intentional, that is was an accident, that it was a test and he was pushing his luck that he wouldn’t be DQd?
- Alpha, do you feel confident you’ll survive today with Chief & Bious gunning for you?
This shouldn’t even be a question. There can’t be anyone that genuinely believes that OZ would premeditate something like that. That was clearly OZ being OZ. He did say in our game night that he liked being able to get away with the ‘village idiot’ thing, but I don’t believe he would’ve done something that idiotic with malicious intent.
I still don’t believe Bious has any resemblance of a case against me. The Chief has even less. I was genuinely convinced that Bious was testing me last Day phase by trying to scare me into voting someone other than you, but him calling for the Vigi to kill me pretty much disproved that theory.
Vynce:
SoVi3t:
@Vynce - kinda busy, I can elaborate later. Go back and check first few pages of the thread. OZ was trying really hard to lead citizens. I mentioned this and how he was likely my lynch and he goes completely silent and stops leading, and never acknowledges my lynch vote. Even after I cast my vote, he hides in the shadows.
Pie and 3rdstrike looking gels suspect. Also, your questioning leads me to aspect ur looking for an in with citizens after your ending up on a few suspect lists.
AlphaCommando has sure simmered down since his name came up for a lynch. Maybe he’s working on a big plan that’ll bag us some capcoms. (For the fans.)
Shit’s hard when you don’t know if there are any secret roles. For now, I’m going to assume that we only have the roles specified on the first page. But at the same time, I can’t. I did have one plan that involved role-claiming, but without knowing what Mafia have up their sleeves, the plan is too risky.
SoVi3t:
Lol AC sticking up for OZ?
I’m confirming it now lynching AlphaCommando
OZ can wait until tomorrow
Call it what you want, but if you seriously believe OZ posted during night phase on purpose, I’ve got bad news for you, son.
SoVi3t:
I dunno if he posted on purpose or not. I think him being mafia saved him from DQ though.
That’s not what Fluff asked.
SoVi3t:
AlphaCommando:
SoVi3t:
I dunno if he posted on purpose or not. I think him being mafia saved him from DQ though.
That’s not what Fluff asked.
…your point?
I’m not defending OZ.
Missing_Person:
People currently on my jetlagged suspicion list:
The Co-Jones (highest)
bloodymess
RadicalFuzz
ForgeDigger
Vynce
AlphaCommandoI’d say 1 of the Texas crew is mafia this time around. Call it gambler’s fallacy, but I just can’t see all three of them being clean three games in a row.
Forge trying to push suspicion on me while I was high above the earth trying to down cheap Korean beer and Melatonin makes her really suspicious to me. I may end up flipping a coin between her and The Co-Jones in this phase.
I think that’s the first time I’ve seen The Co-Jones’ name on a list. Elaborate.
Also, thoughts on 3SL?
NO PAGE 13 POSTS
Bious:
Check the last two games. AC has lynched RF day 1 every day and given a bullshit excuse, BUT HE APPARENTLY MADE A SERIOUS READ THIS GAME.
Please oh please quote my ‘SERIOUS READ’. If you quote ANY of my posts this game saying that I made a serious read on Fluff, I’ll accept my lynch today.
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
As much as I like the idea of you dying, I disagree with that plan. Losing 2 Civs isn’t optimal, even on the first two days. Yes, I think you’re Civ, but your opinion is worthless to me for the remainder of this game.
Don’t know why I keep responding, everyone else in the thread recognises that you don’t have a case.
This is weird. If AB was civ he wouldn’t have tried the distraction game he’s been playing all game with me and everyone else. He said that like he KNEW I was civ. AB doesn’t make reads like that.
THINK AND KNOW SURE ARE THE SAME WORDS! You’ve officially lost all credibility from me this game, and the fact that people are following your train of logic is disgusting. If I gave you a book, I’m not sure if you would ‘read’ it, or ejaculate all over the back cover.
But no. By all means, everyone continue to lynch me based on falsified evidence. I’ll be over here doing the right thing and lynching 3SL.
Also, lol TCJ.
Unlike Bious, I’m going to do some actual homework on my suspect and look into every post he’s made so far. Incoming megapost.
Mega breakdown of all of 3SL’s posts. The ones in spoilers are inconsequential.
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Hey everybody, going through the thread right now…lol. I guess I’m a little late to the party, but I have the next two days off work so I should be good for a while.
Even with all that time off, you’ve still managed to contribute less than nothing, as I will demonstrate.
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
As I’m sure most have already made their minds up as to who should be voted off, I’m not going to even try to start making a case against anyone. That being said… I know pie is always coming up with some new “strategy,” but that day one suggestion was preposterous if you ask me. If he’s mafia, he’s probably low level or whatever, so him suggesting some crazy shit wouldn’t be out of the ordinary and if it got him lynched, it wouldn’t hurt them that bad. My guess is mafia is just trying to get rid of Vynce early, if this indeed was a ploy developed by the mafia.
If I don’t come across something more substantial than this, then I’ll be voting to lynch pietastic
Hecatom, sorry I wasn’t on like an hour ago, I hope my extremely delayed absence wasn’t the deciding factor in most of everyone else’ votes.
Translation: I’m going to let everyone else do the work for me.
[spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
edit…delayed absence? lol delayed arrival rather
If I was nitpicking, which I am, I’d say you’re bringing your post count up.[/spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Vynce:
I’m totally on the fence about Pietastic. He posted that plan knowing full well it wouldn’t work. Which may have been an attempt to feel out some mafia, or simply implicate some civs to make them appear to be dirty. The fact that I was at the top of the list is incidental, IMO. He’s been really quiet, but he did express some interest in re-inventing himself well before this game started.
So, [blink]
Well i did notice a couple of other shots fired very early day one at you. It was nothing too out of the ordinary but then I read pie’s plan and thought it was rather suspicious. Unless of course the list we’re going by is in alphabetical order, which would put me at the top of the list and give me even more of a reason to be suspicious.
Also Pie seems to usually be a bit more apologetic when he’s not mafia, especially when he proposes some new scheme of his. It seems he just kind of threw out the idea and let other people mess with it.
Wait, you’d be more suspicious of the plan if you were going to be lynched earlier? Shouldn’t your suspicion of the plan be the same regardless of which order everyone gets lynched? This sounds like a slip.
[spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Blindknagg:
*snip
As for 3rdSTRikeLOVE who haven’t even made a post yet there’s not much to go on. Depending on if he silently jumps upon one of the bandwagons or makes some last minute post before the deadline I might start getting suspicious of him. He might have a legit reason but I would not be surpriced to see a no lynch or a missed vote from him today though.
I don’t like to waste a vote on someone that might get dq’d anyway but that’s just me.
umm…I’ve made a post or two…yeah. You may just not have noticed lol.
You haven’t posted anything consequential except for that bit about pietastic’s plan.[/spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
I’m currently finishing up page four when Pie says that his plan was basically poppycock and oz finally commenting afterward why he thought it was a bad idea. Pie’s not as suspect now, aid was starting to look EXTREMELY suspect then said something that mad him not as suspect ( which is suspect in and of itself ) idk.
I’m not done going through all of the thread but right now I’m thinking
if Bious ( i don’t think he will ) doesn’t turn out to be mafia then aid or AC will.
if Aid isn’t mafia, pie will or vice versa.
if either one of these guesses has any merit to them, aid is the most likely candidate for mafia right now.
but again, I’m not done reading yet
The thing that interests me in this part is your reasoning behind pietastic. You basically go in a loop saying that you suspect him and you don’t suspect him at the same time. Trying to keep your hands clean?
[spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
WTF-AKUMA-HAX:
pietastic 3rdStrike and I were linked up before with voting things that weren’t even true that went on too long so I’m not ready to go down that path again. But I’m against pietastic voting SAD and disappearing.
Sorry if I don’t understand what you’re referring to.
Nobody understands what HAX refers to.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Bious:
I will suspend my vote on Alpha for an Aidebit lynch if it comes to it. He really rubbed me the wrong way responding on me lynching Alpha.
That’s the biggest thing that got me looking at aid. why in the world was he so quick to jump on board? He did get a trophy tho, maybe he just feels like trolling this game. If that’s the case…respect
That reminds me, he didn’t even end up locking his vote in for Fluff. @Aidebit, your award is suspended and you’re a faget.[/spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Just out of curiosity, what was chief’s list of five
oh and I’m either voting for Alpha of Aid depending on whois the more likely of the two to get lynched. It’s looking like either one will yield a good result. Who all voted or is voting for one of these two and which one if you are?
Translation: I’m more than happy to bandwagon.
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Bious:
People, if you are on the fence vote Aidebit. We do not need a tie today.
Is that what you’re doing Bious? or is you’re vote locked for AC?
One of a couple of posts where you try to buddy up to Bious. We’ll find more as we progress.
[spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
WTF-AKUMA-HAX:
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
WTF-AKUMA-HAX:
pietastic 3rdStrike and I were linked up before with voting things that weren’t even true that went on too long so I’m not ready to go down that path again. But I’m against pietastic voting SAD and disappearing.
Sorry if I don’t understand what you’re referring to.
pietastic made a list with me next to zoolander, voting for somebody.
I never voted for that person.
You quoted the list a long time after I had diffused that as pietastic got it wrong to use for your evidence or discuss it some more, pietastic did it either to put suspicion on me, or he did and it was just a legitimate mistake. Then I was feeling like you acting quite suspicious soon after might drag me down with zoolander who just got shot by Vigi, you claimed to be Vigi then died by Vigi next, so I was next to die there all on a mistake, that I never made. They were looking for a Mafia team of zoolander, you, and me.
It had to be in your first game, VanHelsing Vampires Werwolves.
Ok, I remember. but I didn’t die by vigi. the doc killed me if my memory serves correctly.
Fluff.[/spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
it seems Aid has nothing left to say at this point. I’m pretty sure the Mafia is trying to figure out how they will rock tonight’s phase with one less member on the squad. Wouldn’t it be great if he was just hype because he pulled the godfather only to get lynched day 1 lol.
How would one less Mafia member affect their Night 1 behaviour?
[spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
WTF-AKUMA-HAX:
Gotcha, but you died because of the vigi claim. vigi shot zoolander. & prob wanted to shoot you since he knows you weren’t him.
& I left out you voted with zoolander and were next to him, and me, just my vote next to you guys being the mistake. My out of the thread reaction was like “this guy bringing that up again might get me killed on a fluke!”
not that it matters at this point, but having a vigi decoy is one of the best gifts he could hope for. So i seriously doubt i would have gotten shot by vigi. I’m not sure if I follow you’re logic with the vote thing, because if I recall correctly I voted for myself that game before I was killed because at that point I was in full troll mode. Again not that any of this matters because I get you’re point about not wanting to be put into some type of group that isn’t really a group. But I’m pretty sure none of us got killed in that game because people thought that you, pie, and I were mafia pulling strings together…just saying
Again, irrelevant to what I’m trying to prove here.[/spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Bious:
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Bious:
People, if you are on the fence vote Aidebit. We do not need a tie today.
Is that what you’re doing Bious? or is you’re vote locked for AC?
Nope, I locked in for Alpha and will do so the next phase depending on the night.
Bious
If you’re voting for Alpha, why would you tell everybody on the fence to vote of Aid? wouldn’t make more sense to not split up the resources and guarantee that one of them gets voted off?I would suggest that you were trying to force a tie vote, but that’d be illogical to force a tie vote between two Civs if you were Mafia. The only assumption I can make here is that you wanted No Lynch Day 1, Aidebit Lynch Day 2 and Alpha Lynch Day 3, buying everyone on your team 3 days instead of 2.
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Skizzz:
Shit, sorry thirdstrike. I locked in my vote when I posted it as I wasn’t sure if i would get internet access again before the deadline, obviously if I could change my vote now I would not vote for you. =(
Dude, it’s not even a big deal. When I checked in today to see the game has been up for 2 days it surprised me that I’m actually allowed to still post given my past couple attempts at playing lol.
Missing_Person:
How many mafia are in this sucker? Do we know?
Alpha confirmed that there were 5 a couple of pages back.
Now here’s the big one. The post that EVERYONE should’ve jumped on you for saying, instead of just going ‘lol wut do u mean’. Here are the scenarios that I can come up with to follow your reasoning.
You’re Mafia and I’m Civ: You know the exact amount of Mafia in the game, because you are one. You assume that I asked kaz or something in order to find out this information and think it’s common knowledge, despite the fact that it isn’t. Everyone else knows I was just using 5 for the example. Most logical conclusion for me to come to.
You’re Mafia and I’m Mafia: Everybody pretty much forgot that you’d even made this post and you’d dropped off everyone’s radar except mine. There would be no reason for me to bring it up again and throw you under the bus at this point. Illogical.
You’re Civ and I’m Mafia: If you believed I was Mafia and had let slip the number of Mafioso in this game, why wouldn’t you take more action than ‘i’ll lynch alpha if bias is’? If I were Mafia and you were Civ, then you’d believe that I’d slipped up and you would’ve gone hard on me. Illogical.
You’re Civ and I’m Civ: Pretty much the same as above. You’d still believe that I was Mafia, yet you didn’t do anything about it. Illogical.3rdSTRikeLOVE:
pietastic:
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Alpha confirmed that there were 5 a couple of pages back.
Lolwut
page five was interesting
Translation: Somebody else please make the accusation for me so that it doesn’t look bad on me when he turns up Civ.
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
I just noticed that there hasn’t been one vote of missing person yet…honestly, WTF? lol
anyways, Lynch Aidebit
You make it sound like MP is one of your prime targets, but this is the first time that you bring up MP. Another one of those ‘push the blame onto someone else’ posts.
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
pietastic:
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
pietastic:
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Alpha confirmed that there were 5 a couple of pages back.
Lolwut
page five was interesting
Oh, I read it. All of it. Did you?
of course, why wouldn’t i have read it? lol
Because it specifically mentions that I used the number 5 as an example. You chose to ignore that fact in all your posts.
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
I’m honestly trying to get at least a glimmer of a response from either Alpha of Aid ( check my posts this and last page ) but it seems that they are REALLY done talking. not really sure why you two are so interested in what I have to say fifteen minutes before we shut up and the votes are pretty much locked but i digress…
If we do have a Vigi role, please if you have a sane bone in you’re body. Kill Alpha after Aid is lynched.
Out of curiosity, has there ever been a role that would make a mafia member appear to be a civilian after that mafia had been lynched?
Not ONCE did you tag me or even direct a question my way, and I’ve got all your posts above to prove that fact. Translation: Look guys, I’m contributing! No, don’t look. I promise I am!
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
DukeC:
Maybe you guys have better reads/insights into why you believe Aidebit is Mafia, but since this is my first game all I know about him is what he’s posted here. And what he’s posted here isn’t really that incriminating (to me).
As far as me being too active goes, how am I supposed to act for my first game? Not say anything? I’m going to ask questions for my first time doing anything, and I’d rather get the stupid questions out of the way first and hear the answers plainly rather than be a “wallflower” and hope someone answers my unasked questions in an insightful post that may never come because so far everyone has played relatively conservative (except for Bious getting everyone’s butt in gear, which I assume is par for the course since it’s not getting a reaction from anyone). If that draws suspicion that’s fine, I totally get that.
Lynch: Aidebit to avoid a tie and “wasting a vote”.
Now, if I may ask yet another stupid question: What’s wrong with a tie and what happpens in the event of it?
Talk as much as you feel as necessary. As a matter of fact, being it’s your first game you can just start throwing random accusations around with no root or bearing and get away with it. That’s what I did lol. As far as, aidebit is concerned he’s usually nonchalant not over-the-top. And you don’t usually shut up two hours before the deadline when a good number of people are loudly placing you on their lynch-lists. he’s mafia
Giving the new guy advice to be as useless as he can? That sure is helping the Civ cause! Also there’s a part about you being wrong underneath that.
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
WTF-AKUMA-HAX:
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Out of curiosity, has there ever been a role that would make a mafia member appear to be a civilian after that mafia had been lynched?
Yeah. That’s a stronger one. In games with a lot of roles, it didn’t come into play in Dangan Ronpa but it was in UMVC3 I think somewhere.
poop, vigi kill alpha anyway lol
Not sure whether to file this under ‘Sucking up to Bias’ or ‘Getting an extra Civ killed’.
[spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Blindknagg:
In before the night
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np8/char/duckking-rb-stance2.gif
two firsts back to back…i’ve got my eye on you
Fluff with no follow-up.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Blindknagg:
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
two firsts back to back…i’ve got my eye on you
Didn’t know being fast was a mafia trait.
I more or less live in front of my pc during the night (it’s 9pm over here) so I tend to refresh the gd section now and then.
i guess my sarcasm is still misunderstood
That’s not what sarcasm is, but I digress.[/spoiler]
3rdSTRikeLOVE:
Pie is going to have a lot to answer for this time around
Final post. Almost identical to a post MP (Mafia) made about me (Civ) in the Resident Evil game. Used to belittle someone’s logic, make themselves appear clean and push attention towards that player.
Before doing this analysis, I was pretty sure on 3SL based on the ‘5 Mafia’ post and the last post, but I’ve definitely found some interesting posts to solidify my suspicions, especially that part where you pretend to have an opinion of pietastic.
Conclusion: Lynch: 3rdSTRikeLOVE
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
Bious:
Check the last two games. AC has lynched RF day 1 every day and given a bullshit excuse, BUT HE APPARENTLY MADE A SERIOUS READ THIS GAME.
Please oh please quote my ‘SERIOUS READ’. If you quote ANY of my posts this game saying that I made a serious read on Fluff, I’ll accept my lynch today.
Bious:
AlphaCommando:
As much as I like the idea of you dying, I disagree with that plan. Losing 2 Civs isn’t optimal, even on the first two days. Yes, I think you’re Civ, but your opinion is worthless to me for the remainder of this game.
Don’t know why I keep responding, everyone else in the thread recognises that you don’t have a case.
This is weird. If AB was civ he wouldn’t have tried the distraction game he’s been playing all game with me and everyone else. He said that like he KNEW I was civ. AB doesn’t make reads like that.
THINK AND KNOW SURE ARE THE SAME WORDS! You’ve officially lost all credibility from me this game, and the fact that people are following your train of logic is disgusting. If I gave you a book, I’m not sure if you would ‘read’ it, or ejaculate all over the back cover.
But no. By all means, everyone continue to lynch me based on falsified evidence. I’ll be over here doing the right thing and lynching 3SL.
Also, lol TCJ.
This post makes me wanna lynch you for being a bitch, but thankfully your post on Third plus who I’ve seen rush a vote on you has brought some questions up.
Still, you are a bitch.
Lynch AlphaCommando
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/Tunnel%20Vision.png
RadicalFuzz:
I find it intriguing that you’re saying a plan is too risky the game after you literally role-claimed Mafia.
I was waiting to see if anyone else would bring up the plan so that I could tell them how flawed it was, but I may as well elaborate.
Have Cher role-claim and tell everyone Sonny’s investigation results.
Pros:
-We get a confirmation for one dayCons:
-Quincy is forced to protect Cher the entire time, losing us the mix-up we have of Quincy’s protection in the first place
-The confirmed role lives until the end of the day, at which point, Mafia kills them with full knowledge that Quincy is protecting Cher
-If we lose Quincy, we lose Cher
-We don’t get a bundle of confirmations when Sonny dies (which would tie up Mafia kills for a couple of days)
-Cher may accidentally confirm Quincy, leading to his death that nightAt first it was just ‘better not reveal this plan in case there’s a role that counters it’, but after further reflection, the consequences outweighed the benefits. Feel free to elaborate on this tactic to see if there are any more pros and cons/see if there’s a way to minimise the cons, but without knowing any more roles, the plan is too risky.
RadicalFuzz:
AlphaCommando:
RadicalFuzz:
I find it intriguing that you’re saying a plan is too risky the game after you literally role-claimed Mafia.
I was waiting to see if anyone else would bring up the plan so that I could tell them how flawed it was, but I may as well elaborate.
Have Cher role-claim and tell everyone Sonny’s investigation results.
Pros:
-We get a confirmation for one dayCons:
-Quincy is forced to protect Cher the entire time, losing us the mix-up we have of Quincy’s protection in the first place
-The confirmed role lives until the end of the day, at which point, Mafia kills them with full knowledge that Quincy is protecting Cher
-If we lose Quincy, we lose Cher
-We don’t get a bundle of confirmations when Sonny dies (which would tie up Mafia kills for a couple of days)
-Cher may accidentally confirm Quincy, leading to his death that nightAt first it was just ‘better not reveal this plan in case there’s a role that counters it’, but after further reflection, the consequences outweighed the benefits. Feel free to elaborate on this tactic to see if there are any more pros and cons/see if there’s a way to minimise the cons, but without knowing any more roles, the plan is too risky.
I wasn’t asking you to reveal your plan
It sounds like you just made that up half an hour ago
You spelled minimize like a Brit. Have you no shame?
Sure sounded like it. Plus, there was no harm in bringing forth a discredited plan.
Well I didn’t lol
UK English is only English. Fuck outta here with that color shit.
Synonym:
SAD isn’t a suspect in my eyes.
Have you decided who you’re voting for?
Vynce:
Plenty of time to change my mind, but I think I will be voting for AC today.
May I ask why? If it’s because of Bious’ arguments, could you find a part where he references one of my posts and points out the Mafia behaviour? I’ve been asking him to provide quotes for his statements, but he’s dismissed them all.
The_Chief:
Ok, so from my petspectve…
It looks like MP has 1 vote.
AC has enough to get lynched.
3SL is mafias scapegoat.How certain are you that 3SL is dirty AC? I read your elaborate post and it was eye opening. My concern is that 3SL hasn’t posted anything in his own defense yet, and I’m wondering if mafia is throwing mafia under the bus to make mafia look clean.
If 3SL was super active, he likely would care to play and wouldn’t be worth sacrificing. Maybe he threw in the towel and he’s giving you a free out?
I need to double check all of the players that have pushed 3SL and when.
Giv me moment!
If 3SL turns up Civ, I find it hard to believe that there would be anything I could do to avoid being lynched tomorrow. Hell, even if 3SL turns up Mafia, the suspicion would still be on me as using 3SL as a scapegoat, as you said. Either way, my suspicion is unavoidable, but I want to follow this through to its conclusion.
To answer your question of how certain I am that 3SL is Mafia, I’d stake my life on it. If we assume 3SL is Mafia for the moment, that leaves us with 2 possibilities:
- I’m Civ and my reads were correct. I still probably die tomorrow from all the suspicion I’ve attracted, but I’ve hooked a Mafia and I’ve accomplished something and contributed to the game.
- I’m Mafia and I threw 3SL under the bus. I still probably die tomorrow from suspicion, my plan to throw my comrade under the bus fails, and I’ve let 2 Mafia die instead of 1 by bringing 3SL up.
I suppose my argument here is to let me have the satisfaction of drawing my investigation to a conclusion before I die.
@Skizzz. Forgot the extra z, Chief.
Vynce:
AlphaCommando:
Vynce:
Plenty of time to change my mind, but I think I will be voting for AC today.
May I ask why? If it’s because of Bious’ arguments, could you find a part where he references one of my posts and points out the Mafia behaviour? I’ve been asking him to provide quotes for his statements, but he’s dismissed them all.
I’ve never known you to just sit back and let the game happen.
Fair enough. During Day 1, I didn’t expect that I would be expected to start the game running, so I agree with your statement here. Day 2 I’ve felt a lot of my statements and questions have been ignored, so I guess that was more of a powerless feeling than a relaxed feeling. There have been some other factors that have affected my activity (with work being the main one), but that’s not an excuse for the times that I have been free to comb through the thread. I may need to rethink my first 3 day strategy for future games, but for now, your suspicion is justifiable.
Vynce:
AlphaCommando:
Vynce:
AlphaCommando:
Vynce:
Plenty of time to change my mind, but I think I will be voting for AC today.
May I ask why? If it’s because of Bious’ arguments, could you find a part where he references one of my posts and points out the Mafia behaviour? I’ve been asking him to provide quotes for his statements, but he’s dismissed them all.
I’ve never known you to just sit back and let the game happen.
Fair enough. During Day 1, I didn’t expect that I would be expected to start the game running, so I agree with your statement here. Day 2 I’ve felt a lot of my statements and questions have been ignored, so I guess that was more of a powerless feeling than a relaxed feeling. There have been some other factors that have affected my activity (with work being the main one), but that’s not an excuse for the times that I have been free to comb through the thread. I may need to rethink my first 3 day strategy for future games, but for now, your suspicion is justifiable.
My decision isn’t final. You’re potent on either side of this game. There are some people in here I trust, but that doesn’t mean I’m right to trust them, or that they are automatically correct in their suspicions.
As long as you’ve made your decision based on evidence and not other people’s opinions, I’ll accept any conclusion you come to. I don’t expect you to trust me, but I want to make sure you consider the validity of my case against 3SL.
The_Chief:
AC the MS paint pics are funny but they weren’t helping us.
Yeah, like I said, I may need to reconsider my plans for the first 3 days in the future. Just because the later days are more important than the first couple of days doesn’t mean I shouldn’t treat these first days seriously. I hoped that my investigation of 3SL would prove that I can take the game seriously whilst still having a bit of fun, but on reflection, the fun posts only really served as a distraction from the point I was trying to make.
RadicalFuzz:
If you could give us a short rundown on every player before your death then it’d be most appreciated. If you are civilian then that lets your opinions be heard immediately before you’re confirmed.
It’s 2am here, but according to Synonym, there should be about 13 hours left for me to do a full rundown of everyone. In the meantime, here’s the 3 people I trust the most and the 3 people I want to pay more attention to (both in order).
Trust
- Missing Person
- Blindknagg
- Vynce
Attention
- RECESSIONTIME
- bloodymess
- GodotsRevenge
I’m gonna try and get some sleep now.
NO PAGE 17 POSTS
NO PAGE 18 POSTS
Damn, this is why I’m against locking in votes until the last hour. Either way, there’s one question we need to ask before we progress any further.
@Combo_Knight
@ForgeDigger
@DukeC
@The Co-Jones
@Synonym
@DarkGeneral
@Skizzz
@WTF-AKUMA-HAX
@RECESSIONTIME
@bloodymess
@sumazndudeHave you already locked in your votes, and if so, for whom?
ForgeDigger:
AlphaCommando:
Damn, this is why I’m against locking in votes until the last hour. Either way, there’s one question we need to ask before we progress any further.
@Combo_Knight
@ForgeDigger
@DukeC
@The Co-Jones
@Synonym
@DarkGeneral
@Skizzz
@WTF-AKUMA-HAX
@RECESSIONTIME
@bloodymess
@sumazndudeHave you already locked in your votes, and if so, for whom?
inb4’d?
Not even mad.
The_Chief:
AlphaCommando:
ForgeDigger:
AlphaCommando:
Damn, this is why I’m against locking in votes until the last hour. Either way, there’s one question we need to ask before we progress any further.
Have you already locked in your votes, and if so, for whom?
inb4’d?
Not even mad.
Looks like you’ve been saved AC. After you kill me tonight, whats your plan for Day 3?
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Ask again later.
Okay now I’m actually going to attempt being helpful giving my reads and thoughts on the current players using evidence not half assed conjecture and slander like what dumbass scrubs like sovi3t use.
@sovi3t you said you’re 99% sure I’m mafia. If you aren’t lying then okay yo get the classic OZ deal: If I’m confirmed civ the nyou leave SRK forever, and no alt accounts either and if I’m lying and turn out to be mafia then I’ll leave SRK. Have a mod of your choice enforce the bet.
Now everyone watch him make himself looks even more foolish as if that was even possible. If you could point to a specific thing I said that was fishy or whatever and used that as you’re jumping off point that would be a different story, but as it stands you’re 99% sure I’m mafia because…I pointed out the fact that aidebit was posting more often then he usually did? A fact that aidebit himself acknoeldged. Really my nigga? Fucking fat ugly bitches is enough of a rep to have, but apparently you’re also gunning for worst player award this game damn.
Chief how many of Vynce’s contributions are one line - doing what soviet just said as his suspicion of me since that’s the only thing I’m seeing which you might be using: “Quote everything then - Ask a question” (Where I never asked for “what are we doing” which sounds incorrigibly stupid so that part we can’t even talk about.)
74 posts huh. Highest post count or right at the top, what are his contributions?
How much is pushing or pulling people. Page 18 19 seem that way reacting to DukeC that late as a direct reminder, and interaction. Lets not forget Aidebit died for suspecting Soviet. Page 17 he votes 3SL “even if AC was Mafia.” “Voting 3SL to lynch is the way to vote, I’m thinking” the next page or so to help gather support for the bandwagon.
Or even better
It sounds to me like you didn’t get the okay from your buddies to role claim, @ DukeC
I’m thinking this 3SL lynch may be the way to go.
So why is Vynce off your yomi list when he was a “Godfather” and nobody is worried about how good he is as a Mafia, that he very well could have gotten Mafia again.
Reference list
Who here would’ve approved the kill on TCJ if they were mafia?
Maybe players that are barely there? Oerba?
Players who love yomi? HAX? MP? OZ?
Strategic players? Synonym? RadicalFuzz?
I’m being brief but maybe that kill choice can give us an idea on the remaining mafia squad.
Its been a while too since Oerba was always considered as a really good player, known for his Mafia play. This look at Vynce for that conclusion that he carried with him from game to game there reminded me of him and what he was known for.
This might be very long, and so I’ll probably split it up into multiple posts once my phone starts slowing down (which it does for strange reasons). I think someone asked why I even play these games when I’m pretty quiet. Reason being is that I really enjoy the whole psychological aspect of trying to determine whether or not someone is tricking you without going off gestures or tone of voice. I don’t particularily enjoy starting these confrontations; I like to watch them unfold. So I watch from both sides, seeing how each side handles in. More so about winning or losing, I enjoy just learning from it. Winning is just icing on the cake. Starting post 2, my phone is slowing>…<
Looking at this quote… Synonym’s analysis makes me question how useful it is for us in the long run.
Now, true, it may be that this is how you normally behave in mafia games. But, something about it still bugs me… You still have yet to present any evidence or accusations. This is the same reason why I suspect SAD. Neither of you have really done anything for us. I remind you that this is a team game. Much like the point Chief made in the early pages of the thread: why are we keeping you alive if you aren’t helping? Only faction that benefits from that is the mafia. Which you both may very well be.
In all honesty, I’d vote for either. SAD scares me most because of the fact that he can post things that would normally be suspicious and just be waved off with “oh, that’s just how he acts.” Oerba can do the same as well, but he’s always seen as suspicious anyway. It’s the ones that are left unchecked that worry me.
That said, I think voting for SAD at this point would be futile; I’ll concede to your Oerba vote, Synomon. But, tell me this: do you think my reasoning for going against SAD is faulty?
Oerba:
This might be very long, and so I’ll probably split it up into multiple posts once my phone starts slowing down (which it does for strange reasons). I think someone asked why I even play these games when I’m pretty quiet. Reason being is that I really enjoy the whole psychological aspect of trying to determine whether or not someone is tricking you without going off gestures or tone of voice. I don’t particularily enjoy starting these confrontations; I like to watch them unfold. So I watch from both sides, seeing how each side handles in. More so about winning or losing, I enjoy just learning from it. Winning is just icing on the cake. Starting post 2, my phone is slowing>…<
Looking at this quote… Synonym’s analysis makes me question how useful it is for us in the long run.
Now, true, it may be that this is how you normally behave in mafia games. But, something about it still bugs me… You still have yet to present any evidence or accusations. This is the same reason why I suspect SAD. Neither of you have really done anything for us. I remind you that this is a team game. Much like the point Chief made in the early pages of the thread: why are we keeping you alive if you aren’t helping? Only faction that benefits from that is the mafia. Which you both may very well be.
In all honesty, I’d vote for either. SAD scares me most because of the fact that he can post things that would normally be suspicious and just be waved off with “oh, that’s just how he acts.” Oerba can do the same as well, but he’s always seen as suspicious anyway. It’s the ones that are left unchecked that worry me.
That said, I think voting for SAD at this point would be futile; I’ll concede to your Oerba vote, Synomon. But, tell me this: do you think my reasoning for going against SAD is faulty?
No, like I’ve said I have been watching the interactions in the thread very carefully.
I don’t disagree that many people have a solid case against SAD. I just personally don’t suspect him.
You have made a good case against SAD, whereas Oerba hasn’t. That’s a distinction that I’d like to make.
I appreciate the voting support Forgey.
@Forgedigger, I can’t express this enough, I’m not what you think I am… If you’ll excuse me, I’ve got some sleep to catch up on…
Oerba:
Response to 1: Yes I have been rushed. It’s not how I play these games, but life has been forcing me to be rushed. I work both Saturday and Sunday this weekend while having a mini-exam on Monday and two separate 2 page papers due Tuesday. 2 Page papers aren’t hard in the least bit, but they still take time.
Response to 2: I never was certain that SAD was guilty, so I put my vote to him. Votes aren’t just to kill people; they play a much more important role. How does someone react when you vote them? How do they play the upcoming days? Do they ignore or question the voter? Who else responds? You can learn a lot from just voting someone. I don’t intend on voting SAD this phase, in fact I agree with him that OZ looks more suspicious. No one seemed particularly interested in MY voting for SAD. People still look at him, but if he was mafia there would probably be at least a few people trying to take attention off of him.
Response to 3: Why are you in such a rush to kill me? I love the oh so typical “Vigi if you want to trust me once more can you take a pot-shot at Oerba tonight?” line, what entices you to kill me so much?
There are many quiet players this time around, much more than when I first started playing mafia games. If anything though whenever anyone asks me what I’m thinking I will answer. Not going to lie, I don’t care too much about mafia games till midgame, and the past two games I have been killed very early.
My attention has drifted towards the OZ and MP spat, although unfortunately I don’t have much to go by since OZ hasn’t responded yet. OZ has more stuff against him than for him, where MP has made a conscious effort to respond to many posts. That to me looks like someone who isn’t nearly afraid as a mafia would be of making a mistake. OZ on the other hand is going to include DukeC into his defense, which I’m interested in hearing. So my vote this phase is looking to be OZ, unless I find his defense proves otherwise. If so, back to the drawing board.
Your confidence is admirable, as is your defence. But I see through it.
The “oh so typical” request has done me wonders in the past.
I know how baiting people with a lynch vote works. It’s how I landed your teammate DukeC day 2.
You say you don’t care about these games until mid-game so why are you a valuable asset? For someone who claims to love observing you’ve overlooked a lot of patterns in people’s behaviours. OZ’s behaviour is, on the surface, that of someone guilty. But you ignore his speech patterns, thought process etc. that you become accustomed to after playing with him a few times. I know I spent most of last game with tunnel vision for OZ but hopefully this time I’ve gained a bit of perspective.
Really though, your defence of yourself has boiled down to “you shouldn’t lynch me because… I’ve been busy. Not that I normally care about early game. Oh, and my contributions thus far? Ignore those. I promise to be more helpful in the future. Or at least past mid-game.”
You will live through today, I am almost certain. The other civs are too blinded by OZ to look at you, but hopefully the vigi will place his trust in me.
“You say you don’t care about these games until mid-game so why are you a valuable asset?” The answer to your question is right in front of you; I’m not valuable until midgame. I can admit this; two games ago I suspected Aidebit from the get-go and voted for him twice and kept condemning him - he was the detective. I said I was interested in hearing what OZ has to say first; I’m not ignoring his behavior. Stop skimming my posts so I don’t have to clarify these things. You want me dead just to confirm your own hunch, and you’re using any means to accomplish that, looks desperate. The desperation is why I don’t think you’re mafia, mafia never push that far. Reminds me of the 2nd MvC game played here that I played in. I suspected NoodleHead and refused to drop it, and he linked an article about how people become blinded and won’t listen to any explanations. If I had that article I would link it. We we’re both civs in that game and that argument is part of the reason why we lost I’m sure.
I am finally able to get some time to read the thread
Nice to see that our vigi killed AlphaCommando :tup:
“You say you don’t care about these games until mid-game so why are you a valuable asset?” The answer to your question is right in front of you; I’m not valuable until midgame. I can admit this; two games ago I suspected Aidebit from the get-go and voted for him twice and kept condemning him - he was the detective. I said I was interested in hearing what OZ has to say first; I’m not ignoring his behavior. Stop skimming my posts so I don’t have to clarify these things. You want me dead just to confirm your own hunch, and you’re using any means to accomplish that, looks desperate. The desperation is why I don’t think you’re mafia, mafia never push that far. Reminds me of the 2nd MvC game played here that I played in. I suspected NoodleHead and refused to drop it, and he linked an article about how people become blinded and won’t listen to any explanations. If I had that article I would link it. We we’re both civs in that game and that argument is part of the reason why we lost I’m sure.
Not to be rude, but I haven’t really needed to skim your posts. There isn’t all that much content to read.
I don’t see how wanting you dead to confirm my suspicion is different from literally anyone else in this game. That’s how this works. My spidey senses have been tingling around you all game and your defence has left much to be desired.
Desperation? Hardly. I have no power in this game outside of my words. I intend to use them to attempt to sway those with power to my side.
You speak to me as if I am new to these games. I certainly don’t have as extensive of a play record as some of the participants but I’m hardly new to these games.
Also, I prefer modesty but sometimes it’s necessary to cast that off in favour of being bold. I’ve got a fairly high ratio of successful mafia reads, and have been improving the more games I’ve played in. Is that enough of a justification for the civilians to at least give me the benefit of the doubt? I can’t claim credit for AC but DukeC was all me.
I’m happy that my suspicion has finally coerced you into posting more, although it is still lacking in anything of substance other than vague runarounds on why you aren’t mafia.
I’m not going to force you into activity. You can play however you want to play. I just disagree vehemently with anyone thinking that an active contributor is a better early-game lynch target than someone who is quiet and lacking any posts of real substance.
Catching up with the thread btw
Oerba:
“You say you don’t care about these games until mid-game so why are you a valuable asset?” The answer to your question is right in front of you; I’m not valuable until midgame. I can admit this; two games ago I suspected Aidebit from the get-go and voted for him twice and kept condemning him - he was the detective. I said I was interested in hearing what OZ has to say first; I’m not ignoring his behavior. Stop skimming my posts so I don’t have to clarify these things. You want me dead just to confirm your own hunch, and you’re using any means to accomplish that, looks desperate. The desperation is why I don’t think you’re mafia, mafia never push that far. Reminds me of the 2nd MvC game played here that I played in. I suspected NoodleHead and refused to drop it, and he linked an article about how people become blinded and won’t listen to any explanations. If I had that article I would link it. We we’re both civs in that game and that argument is part of the reason why we lost I’m sure.
Not to be rude, but I haven’t really needed to skim your posts. There isn’t all that much content to read.
I don’t see how wanting you dead to confirm my suspicion is different from literally anyone else in this game. That’s how this works. My spidey senses have been tingling around you all game and your defence has left much to be desired.
Desperation? Hardly. I have no power in this game outside of my words. I intend to use them to attempt to sway those with power to my side.
You speak to me as if I am new to these games. I certainly don’t have as extensive of a play record as some of the participants but I’m hardly new to these games.
Also, I prefer modesty but sometimes it’s necessary to cast that off in favour of being bold. I’ve got a fairly high ratio of successful mafia reads, and have been improving the more games I’ve played in. Is that enough of a justification for the civilians to at least give me the benefit of the doubt? I can’t claim credit for AC but DukeC was all me.
I’m happy that my suspicion has finally coerced you into posting more, although it is still lacking in anything of substance other than vague runarounds on why you aren’t mafia.
I’m not going to force you into activity. You can play however you want to play. I just disagree vehemently with anyone thinking that an active contributor is a better early-game lynch target than someone who is quiet and lacking any posts of real substance.
I find myself talking to people as if they’re new because many people are unaware of how I play, hence my explanations. I’m not looking down at you at all, you are really good at these games. People call me a vet but I’ve never thought I was that great at these games. I haven’t provided any information as to why I’m not a mafia simply because as you’ve said I haven’t contributed much yet. What is there for me to say, all I’ve done this game so far is talked with you and a little tiny bit with SAD. Much like your confidence in saying the vigi won’t be disappointed, I say civs won’t be disappointed if they let me survive. If anything this conversation is a good starting point for me to start analyzing/observing/contributing. So thanks for that I guess.
OZ hasn’t posted yet, and I’m tired so I’m going to bed.
Back from improv, catching up with the thread.
@Oerba How the fuck did you miss that OZ post with the quote function abuse?
so, OZ…ur defence is a mountain of a wall of text that has gotta be a troll, and then you insult me and are forced to resort to fat girl jokes. Could you be any more obvious?
Okay, it really doesn’t take more than a couple pages back of AC backing him up for me to safely claim
lynch OZ
Like, FFS. There has been literally zero point to his post compilations aside from trying to look important and how does he defend himself? The mafia equivalent of “LOL 1V1 ME BITCH.”
Signing off, he’s a bigger cock than Ron Jeremy’s.