Alright but its a big 180 from where you started. Your 1st vote publicly could’ve meant a lot to having people lock in some votes for AC.
Are you in another boat with the locked but not locked folks? I still need to learn more about how to use that really effectively or how it works better than the last time I saw it. I didn’t like it in the face of more last game stuff, we needed to lynch you, Syn locked on zoo and pushed zoo as the lynch. In the end he helped vote out Mafia Pie, his vote not locked as he said.
Just reflecting on the whole jones role claim thing. The best case scenario is that he’s telling the truth and then what? He’s already admitted to not reading the tread or know what’s going on. So that would put him high on the mafia’s hit list for tonight. If we get a botched lynch today, that’s essentially THREE civ kills in a day, asuming he uses his “role” of course. Unless we were to believe him and wrap up the medic’s role on him tonight to avoid losing a bunch of civs. Suspicious
On the other hand, maybe he just wants a target on his back to draw eyes away from on of the more important roles. I just don’t understand how he could feel any particular role or player was in danger of getting killed tonight, so that idea is offer exclusive as a counter argument to the best case situation.
Third possibility is a bit more dangerous. Suspicions of AC are being carried over from day one, and Mafia should be fully aware of the possibility if not guaranteed lynching of AC today. Which incidentally has me hunting for mafia in the people who were jumping on AC before the bandwagon was allowed to get rolling. In the midst of confusion, the Mafia will try to do the inception thing.
The was I see it, Co_jones has pretty much nullified his own role by RCing, if he ever had a role to begin with. On the what I would say is the more likely side ( solely based on my paranoid thinking ) this is a brave Mafia move to get us to do something stupid. Even though it’s most likely not going to have any bearing on the vote today, I’ll most likely be voting for co-jones on principle.
This last page is what I was referring to regarding the difficulty of lynching a mafia.
Its easier to lynch a civ (3SL), than it is to lynch a mafia (AlphaCommando).
I’m staying the course on AC. I truly believe mafia is throwing away 3SL in favor of keeping AC alive.
The only way I could possibly believe otherwise is if AC would openly request that the Vigi (if we have one) kill him regardless of the result of a 3SL lynch.
Trading a civ for a mafia is not as bad for us as it would be mafia. But if they’re both mafia, its a lose/lose for them if AC openly accepts death via Vigi tonight (if we have one).
The chances of them both being civ is almost impossible to even consider for me at this point.
lol, just read AC’s “mega-breakdown” of me. Wow, stellar points man. Just out of curiosity, out of all the people who are pushing you’re lynch…why look at me so closely. I’m actually surprised that you haven’t came up with an alternate name for me yet and presented that to the class as well, lol
*Alright, here is how I stand on a couple things right now.
AC - Registered a couple blips on my radar at the beginning, none of them had to due with him wanting to lynch Fuzz. In fact I see that as his normal recent style, voting to lynch Fuzz that is. His case against 3s did not move me. With that said, he has decreased by a spot or two on my suspects list since today he has played more civ-esque to me.
3S - In my eyes he’s not playing too differently than how he played in the monsters game. Roleclaim notwithstanding.
DukeC - I’ve already expressed my opinion on him.
With that said, there are currently 2 players that are starting to gain a little bit of trust from me. No, I’m not going to name them. But depending on how this day phase goes, if one of them die tonight I know who i’ll be pushing tomorrow.
As for today I’m not sure where my vote is going. Everyone on the table right now seems kinda meh to me. When I get the time I’ll reread the thread and see if I can get some stronger reads. *
Well, going through this, I’m going back to my last game’s original thoughts and reasoning.
Lynch orochizoolander. I’m not totally feeling either AC or 3SL yet, but my trust in Chief will be solidified or destroyed depending on which of those two are mafia.
As for future lynches:
TCJ I think is bluffing hard. Since we have no clue what roles are where, people can peruse MafiaScum for lesser-used roles and throw out a roleclaim “on accident” from there. Plus, while we’ve seen the bomber style role before, it’s only been mafia side. Even if he isn’t bluffing, he’s likely mafia for that reason alone.
Bious I’d want to look hard into, but that will depend on AC’s alignment. Hell, even if he’s mafia, I’d still wonder if Bious wasn’t just trying to throw him under the bus and save his own skin.
People are voting for me because of my strange reactions…
I don’t know what’s different but I’m sure something is different
If Mafia was smart, they’d keep me alive a bit longer because of all my attention… I’m becoming a potential mafia bandwagon the more WAH builds his solid case… When the time comes, Mafia will act upon me be it lynch wagon or a night kill
I may be willing to trust AC for now and give him another chance despite of how he acted the previous day. Mostly because he’s starting to contribute to our cause now and he’s made some compeling points against 3SL.
I also feel that we could get more out of AC than 3SL now by letting him live another day but I’ll give it some more thought before deciding. If either one of them die today and turns out to be civ I’ll concider the other to most likely be mafia from then on though.
On another note I’m not sure what to think of DukeC at the moment. He mostly comes of as a new player to me but something feels iffy . I don’t suspect him enough yet to concider him mafia.
I read that more like a don’t have any 'intellegence, more info, to start the game with" at first glance.
Now I’m kinda glad I didn’t just want to look for more pietastic votes and have to go along with only you not going with either, in the face of this big AC vs 3SL thing. Pie is your only suspect.
I had a snap reaction to the 3SL thing that makes almost no sense now that I held off on posting and instead of pie it looked like my case today lied with SAD. Still looking for the strings to tie players together, AC putting me up as directly involved with 3SL again, I think from how many times he responded to the same quotes, only the 1st one was a different lead up.
And I’ve calmed down more that I shouldn’t be at risk if 3SL is clean. Then followed the full AC debate that let SAD slide in and out of the major target for today.
I intend to vote for 3SL. AC builds a case against him and makes the concession that it could be a potential offer-up, even if he himself is mafia.
My initial suspicion was based on the RF thing. Fuzz doesn’t seem to be too phased by it. Maybe he’s more objective than I am. Historically, I’ve suffered from tunnel-vision. I’m not sure how much there will be to learn from lynching 3SL, but if he’s mafia, I’m content to have voted him to death regardless.
Alright, I’m finally completed caught up, I wish that @AlphaCommando hadn’t gone to bed yet. There is something interesting I would like to ask him about.
on another note @Blindknagg did you plan on formulating ANY thoughts of your own or are you just going to keep inb4ing and doing what everybody, all the other mafia i mean, does?
Man, every time that i think that i catched up with the thread there are already 40+ new posts :lol:
I alredy said that i was considering voting for AC on this day phase since he seems the strongest candidate.
Of course my vote is not locked yet if for some reason there is a better option later on the day phase/AC convince me that his current (lack of) play is not just a way to distract the civs while not being helpful
Just to keep track, this was on page 11
It seems AC has a plan that involves role-claiming ( honestly why do i have to spell this out ) but the risks are too high
This was page 15
I guess with suspicions coming at him, it’s time to reveal the plan
and
both on page 16
It seems to me that AC in softly insinuating that he himself is either Sonny or Cher, at least setting up bread crumbs for later just in case his case against me is successful. Anyway, it’s obvious bullspit if you ask me.
When I said that I would most likely be voting for co-jones tonight, it was before I was aware of how fast this bandwagon started by the BIGGEST suspect from yesterday was growing. So in the spirit of self-preservation as well as in attempt to vote of our first mafia this game… Lynch AlphaCommando