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BullDancer got killed night 1 last game - lets not forget, based on old game ideas like that, plus claiming roleless Civ.
In the game where everyone had a role but one guy, he actually was roleless this time and wasn’t lying.
He could’ve pulled strings but plenty of people would then be able to PM him, remind him to go vote.
I just don’t believe you. Everyone else was fairly confident in South Park. You PMed me and had me dead to rights. So you’ve either lost your touch, or you’re not being being straight with me. I don’t think it’s the former, and the latter is to be expected.
Just saying.
I’m still trying to wrap my head around Azure being lock away in the town hall…does that mean Azure is the Mayor and is pretty much role-claiming and giving up on being able to use his powers for anything other than self-preservation? or did he get put in there off some random guess? If he’s not the mayor, why would the mayor decide to lock him away…even if they had some crazy read Azure ( Dracula or Lucian being the only legitimate reads considering the action taken ) is it worth risking being wrong and giving up the chance to do something better?
*such great grammar in my last post
DarkGeneral:
*@Pimpy Willy, only the Jailer finds out who targeted Vynce, right? He also prevents Vynce from outside role abilities being used, correct?
If so, I think it would be a good decision for the Priest to target Vynce tonight so the Jailer and soldier can learn another trusted identity. If anybody disagrees please speak up and include a reason why it’s a bad idea.
For now, I’m heading out. I don’t want my blood pressure to get any higher. *
I don’t think so. If Jailer turns, that information ends up in the wrong hands.
*What you posted goes without saying. However here is a couple things I had in mind:
1: Jailer/Soldier would have to lose his partner before he’s able to turn.
2: There’s no guarantee that the medic would cure the Jailer/Soldier at night if he said he was bitten.
3: Soldier/Jailer get to monitor Priest if they’re both alive and the medic dies. If the Priest starts acting different they can deduce if he’s turned or not.
4: A bite can occur because of a turned Jailer/soldier only if the Priests partner is killed. Otherwise the monsters will either have to play the waiting game or assassinate him.
5: Closed circuit of trust between Jailer, Soldier and Priest.
Are there any other negatives you, or anyone else, can think of besides the possibility of one of the Jailer/Soldier turning into a monster that I missed? Do everyone feel the risk would be too large for the civ cause? Or is it strong enough that it’ll bolster our chances of survival and winning despite the inherent risks?
BullDancer got killed night 1 last game - lets not forget, based on old game ideas like that, plus claiming roleless Civ.
I wasn’t around last few games, and didn’t even get a chance to read them. I’m just going off of really old Mafia games lol. I’m just saying he’s acting exactly the same way he did last time he got Mafia when I played with him. Right down to ‘missing’ a vote.
Your name sucks for tagging.
lol everybody thinks I am vietnamese
Your list is matching up a bit with the general consensus aroung here. How sure are you on it?
lol its still early, so not 100%. I will try to post my thoughts and theories tomorrow (trying to get my wizard to paragon 100 tonight, in Diablo 3, and I have a ton of notes to go back and read)
Also I have to agree with you on Bull.
It’s looking really obvious now
WTF-AKUMA-HAX:
BullDancer got killed night 1 last game - lets not forget, based on old game ideas like that, plus claiming roleless Civ.
I wasn’t around last few games, and didn’t even get a chance to read them. I’m just going off of really old Mafia games lol. I’m just saying he’s acting exactly the same way he did last time he got Mafia when I played with him. Right down to ‘missing’ a vote.
Bious:
Your name sucks for tagging.
lol everybody thinks I am vietnamese
Bious:
Your list is matching up a bit with the general consensus aroung here. How sure are you on it?
lol its still early, so not 100%. I will try to post my thoughts and theories tomorrow (trying to get my wizard to paragon 100 tonight, in Diablo 3, and I have a ton of notes to go back and read)
Also I have to agree with you on Bull.
It’s looking really obvious now
Well let’s not forget the last 5O0 times Bull has died early because someone accused him.
Due to Missing Person’s list, RadicalFluff is now on my radar as a mafioso.
He is prone to his numbers games.
And so he’s bound to put at least one of his fellow mafia on his list of suspects.
Old dogs, and all that.
@Godotsrevenge are you in the same PM as SumAznDude, or a different one? I’m confident you’re both in PMs.
Or maybe you’ve both just been scratching your heads all night trying to makes heads and tails of things.
This. So hard.
While it is possible for Vynce to be affected by actions tonight, the Jailer will know who used them. This lowers the possibility of him being Promoted to zero and by being in Jail, Vynce can not Promote his underlings if he is the big bad.
We can use this to inform the Jailer of the identities of our roles. If the Priest, Fortune Teller, and Witch all target Vynce, effectively nothing will happen but the Jailer will learn their identities. I’d advise Helsing and the Doctor to hold unless they’re 139% sure, but in the event Helsing or the Doctor kills Vynce then the Jailer will know his/their persona(s) as well. If we’re afraid of the possibility of the information being used against us if he gets converted, there is a way to guarantee the Town will know.The Jailer will get the identities of the roles, and restate them in the Jailer-Soldier PM. While both are alive they cannot be bitten. In the event one of the two dies, or the time is right for the information to be released, the survivor will post the identities of the roles they have received. In the event that, through some odd series of actions, one is bitten the same night the other is killed, the bite will not take effect because at the time of the action the partner was still alive.
However, this relies on the Jailer not screwing with us, and the Jailer not being willing to abandon us if he gets bitten. Thoughts, everyone?
Hmmm. Soldier/Jailer can let on that he knows someone identity which in turn lets the other team know who the jailer/soldier is. I like the idea but I’m not sure how effective it’ll be in practice. *
RadicalFuzz:
This. So hard.
While it is possible for Vynce to be affected by actions tonight, the Jailer will know who used them. This lowers the possibility of him being Promoted to zero and by being in Jail, Vynce can not Promote his underlings if he is the big bad.
We can use this to inform the Jailer of the identities of our roles. If the Priest, Fortune Teller, and Witch all target Vynce, effectively nothing will happen but the Jailer will learn their identities. I’d advise Helsing and the Doctor to hold unless they’re 139% sure, but in the event Helsing or the Doctor kills Vynce then the Jailer will know his/their persona(s) as well. If we’re afraid of the possibility of the information being used against us if he gets converted, there is a way to guarantee the Town will know.The Jailer will get the identities of the roles, and restate them in the Jailer-Soldier PM. While both are alive they cannot be bitten. In the event one of the two dies, or the time is right for the information to be released, the survivor will post the identities of the roles they have received. In the event that, through some odd series of actions, one is bitten the same night the other is killed, the bite will not take effect because at the time of the action the partner was still alive.
However, this relies on the Jailer not screwing with us, and the Jailer not being willing to abandon us if he gets bitten. Thoughts, everyone?
- I’m not sure I’m ready to go all in and entrust the Soldier/Jailer with all that power. Specially since the temptation will be there for the Jailer/Soldier to run off to the mafia with numerous identities. However if we can come up with some sort of way to get our roles on the same page, it will be MOST advantageous.
Hmmm. Soldier/Jailer can let on that he knows someone identity which in turn lets the other team know who the jailer/soldier is. I like the idea but I’m not sure how effective it’ll be in practice. *
I don’t think the advantage is as strong as you and Fuzz seem to think it is.
DarkGeneral:
RadicalFuzz:
This. So hard.
While it is possible for Vynce to be affected by actions tonight, the Jailer will know who used them. This lowers the possibility of him being Promoted to zero and by being in Jail, Vynce can not Promote his underlings if he is the big bad.
We can use this to inform the Jailer of the identities of our roles. If the Priest, Fortune Teller, and Witch all target Vynce, effectively nothing will happen but the Jailer will learn their identities. I’d advise Helsing and the Doctor to hold unless they’re 139% sure, but in the event Helsing or the Doctor kills Vynce then the Jailer will know his/their persona(s) as well. If we’re afraid of the possibility of the information being used against us if he gets converted, there is a way to guarantee the Town will know.The Jailer will get the identities of the roles, and restate them in the Jailer-Soldier PM. While both are alive they cannot be bitten. In the event one of the two dies, or the time is right for the information to be released, the survivor will post the identities of the roles they have received. In the event that, through some odd series of actions, one is bitten the same night the other is killed, the bite will not take effect because at the time of the action the partner was still alive.
However, this relies on the Jailer not screwing with us, and the Jailer not being willing to abandon us if he gets bitten. Thoughts, everyone?
- I’m not sure I’m ready to go all in and entrust the Soldier/Jailer with all that power. Specially since the temptation will be there for the Jailer/Soldier to run off to the mafia with numerous identities. However if we can come up with some sort of way to get our roles on the same page, it will be MOST advantageous.
Hmmm. Soldier/Jailer can let on that he knows someone identity which in turn lets the other team know who the jailer/soldier is. I like the idea but I’m not sure how effective it’ll be in practice. *
I don’t think the advantage is as strong as you and Fuzz seem to think it is.
“Wait, you can’t lynch him (several role claims)”
Because, that?
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RadicalFuzz:
This. So hard.
While it is possible for Vynce to be affected by actions tonight, the Jailer will know who used them. This lowers the possibility of him being Promoted to zero and by being in Jail, Vynce can not Promote his underlings if he is the big bad.
We can use this to inform the Jailer of the identities of our roles. If the Priest, Fortune Teller, and Witch all target Vynce, effectively nothing will happen but the Jailer will learn their identities. I’d advise Helsing and the Doctor to hold unless they’re 139% sure, but in the event Helsing or the Doctor kills Vynce then the Jailer will know his/their persona(s) as well. If we’re afraid of the possibility of the information being used against us if he gets converted, there is a way to guarantee the Town will know.The Jailer will get the identities of the roles, and restate them in the Jailer-Soldier PM. While both are alive they cannot be bitten. In the event one of the two dies, or the time is right for the information to be released, the survivor will post the identities of the roles they have received. In the event that, through some odd series of actions, one is bitten the same night the other is killed, the bite will not take effect because at the time of the action the partner was still alive.
However, this relies on the Jailer not screwing with us, and the Jailer not being willing to abandon us if he gets bitten. Thoughts, everyone?
- I’m not sure I’m ready to go all in and entrust the Soldier/Jailer with all that power. Specially since the temptation will be there for the Jailer/Soldier to run off to the mafia with numerous identities. However if we can come up with some sort of way to get our roles on the same page, it will be MOST advantageous.
Hmmm. Soldier/Jailer can let on that he knows someone identity which in turn lets the other team know who the jailer/soldier is. I like the idea but I’m not sure how effective it’ll be in practice. *
The fact that the Soldier/Jailer will be so highly sought after if his accomplice dies is something we can use to our advantage for one simple reason.
There’s not one team. There are two.
RadicalFuzz:
While it is possible for Vynce to be affected by actions tonight, the Jailer will know who used them. This lowers the possibility of him being Promoted to zero and by being in Jail, Vynce can not Promote his underlings if he is the big bad.
We can use this to inform the Jailer of the identities of our roles. If the Priest, Fortune Teller, and Witch all target Vynce, effectively nothing will happen but the Jailer will learn their identities. I’d advise Helsing and the Doctor to hold unless they’re 139% sure, but in the event Helsing or the Doctor kills Vynce then the Jailer will know his/their persona(s) as well. If we’re afraid of the possibility of the information being used against us if he gets converted, there is a way to guarantee the Town will know.Ooh. I like this. And Vynce doesn’t necessarily have die for the Jailer to find out who Van Helsing is. Just have both Van Helsing and the Soldier target Vynce. Vynce is protected and the Jailer gets to know who Van Helsing is.
*I’am absolutely, positively 100 percent against having Van Hellsing target Vynce so the jailer can find out Van Hellsings identity. Abso fucking lutely not. If there is one man who can save the civs from a massive fuck up it’s him, him giving out his identity to someone who can get recruited is a terrible, terrible idea in my opinion.
The other roles? Yeah sure, we can try and find a way to make it work. But exposing Van Hellsings identity is one of the biggest risks I can think of. *
Due to Missing Person’s list, RadicalFluff is now on my radar as a mafioso.
He is prone to his numbers games.
And so he’s bound to put at least one of his fellow mafia on his list of suspects.
Old dogs, and all that.
Except for the time where I was mafia, and I didn’t put any mafia on my lists, and everyone bought it.
You’re WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY off.