dude it’s still the first day. I have suspicions on people too, but to start throwing up random numbers with nothing to back them, especially for just a list of random people, lacks any sense. Besides, throwing up several names like u did just reeks of a mafia tactic. I’m willing to bet at least one of those people in that list is mafia, and is probably in your monster group. Pick 3 random people who’s gameplay worries your group, and add somebody you’re willing to sacrifice (in this case I am guessing Icege), then hope the town does the work for you.
You know damn well. I’m a busy man!

@RadicalFuzz, off the top of my head this is what I believe the correspondance was.
[details=Spoiler]■Bowser- DarkGeneral
■Donkey Kong- Aidebit
■Diddy Kong-RadicalFuzz
■Fox-Azure
■Ice Climbers- The Co-Jones
■Ike- Missing Person
■King Dedede - Hecatom
■Kirby- Icege
■Lucas- Saitsu
■Mario- SoVi3t
■Peach- Combo_knight
■Pit- ForgeDigger
■Yoshi- orochizoolander
■Zelda- SumAznDude
■Captain Falcon-90s arcade
■Falco*-Vynce
■Ganondorf- GodotsRevenge
■Jigglypuff- highlulu
■Lucario- 3rdSTRikeLOVE
■Luigi- BullDancer
■Marth- Synonym
■Mr. Game & Watch- WTF-AKUMA-HAX
■Ness - Bious
■R.O.B.- Pietastic
■Toon Link- The Chief
■Wolf-AlphaCommando
[/details]Modified brawl roster.
I’m forever low tier.

You know damn well. I’m a busy man!
Don’t worry about it, it’s not important.

Combo_Knight:
@RadicalFuzz, off the top of my head this is what I believe the correspondance was.
[details=Spoiler]■Bowser- DarkGeneral
■Donkey Kong- Aidebit
■Diddy Kong-RadicalFuzz
■Fox-Azure
■Ice Climbers- The Co-Jones
■Ike- Missing Person
■King Dedede - Hecatom
■Kirby- Icege
■Lucas- Saitsu
■Mario- SoVi3t
■Peach- Combo_knight
■Pit- ForgeDigger
■Yoshi- orochizoolander
■Zelda- SumAznDude
■Captain Falcon-90s arcade
■Falco*-Vynce
■Ganondorf- GodotsRevenge
■Jigglypuff- highlulu
■Lucario- 3rdSTRikeLOVE
■Luigi- BullDancer
■Marth- Synonym
■Mr. Game & Watch- WTF-AKUMA-HAX
■Ness - Bious
■R.O.B.- Pietastic
■Toon Link- The Chief
■Wolf-AlphaCommando
[/details]Modified brawl roster.
I’m forever low tier.
At least you have aerial side-B for the lolz

pietastic:
RadicalFuzz:
pietastic:
Augustus:
RadicalFuzz:
While it is possible for Vynce to be affected by actions tonight, the Jailer will know who used them. This lowers the possibility of him being Promoted to zero and by being in Jail, Vynce can not Promote his underlings if he is the big bad.
We can use this to inform the Jailer of the identities of our roles. If the Priest, Fortune Teller, and Witch all target Vynce, effectively nothing will happen but the Jailer will learn their identities. I’d advise Helsing and the Doctor to hold unless they’re 139% sure, but in the event Helsing or the Doctor kills Vynce then the Jailer will know his/their persona(s) as well. If we’re afraid of the possibility of the information being used against us if he gets converted, there is a way to guarantee the Town will know.Ooh. I like this. And Vynce doesn’t necessarily have die for the Jailer to find out who Van Helsing is. Just have both Van Helsing and the Soldier target Vynce. Vynce is protected and the Jailer gets to know who Van Helsing is.
Still not convinced. All roles involved must trust one another to commit to the human cause and submit their actions on time and correctly. Quite a risk. The reward isn’t that high–one person (or maybe two), both of whom might be idiots and would withhold/disclose that information at the wrong time, gets the role identities of some critical roles. The worst-case scenario is a disaster. Monsters get knowledge that amounts to a game-winning advantage.
Given all that, the incentive for the jailer to run off and join a monster faction, and bring that game-winning advantage with him, is too high. Seeing ahead to that, the participants would have some uncertain judgments before them and the web of trust would inevitably break down.
Too much of a risk in my view, but let’s keep talking.
That’s the weak link, having to trust the other roles. I’m sure that each pairing will be discussing it in their PM and come to their own conclusions about how much information they’re willing to provide. Don’t forget also that, even if the Soldier dies and the Jailer’s identity is somehow made public, the Jailer can only be recruited by one faction. If we’re going to go through with this, the Jailer will be a valuable asset to both the Vampires & Werewolves, so it’s very possible that they fight each other to bite him and/or try to get him killed once bitten.
Personally, I’d trust about 95% of the players here, if they were the appropriate roles, to at the very least consider the possibility and submit their action if they’re going through with it.
Another thing I just noticed, each faction has a way to kill off their own members without letting them receive a Last Gasp. Vampires can sacrifice a member as any role and Dracula forges a LG, and Werewolves can Assassinate their own member and just deny him a Last Gasp.
I trust 0% of the players to do the right thing. This is a game of deception.
And, this particular play is classic game theory. If everyone cooperates, it could work. But if one person cheats, they could take all.
Let’s keep talking. I think that as we continue, you’re at least giving me information on your worldview.
This is a game of deception, but it is guaranteed that the roles involved are, at the moment and for a short while afterwards, civilian. In this case if one person cheats (Jailer wants to get bitten) then he will get lynched and lose the game. While I wouldn’t like trusting others to handle this correctly, all parties involved are by definition on the same side. Mafia will have no access to that information unless they get the Jailer, and we will not have access to that information until the Jailer deems it appropriate. These terms are acceptable to me.
Combo_Knight:
@RadicalFuzz, off the top of my head this is what I believe the correspondance was.
[details=Spoiler]■Bowser- DarkGeneral
■Donkey Kong- Aidebit
■Diddy Kong-RadicalFuzz
■Fox-Azure
■Ice Climbers- The Co-Jones
■Ike- Missing Person
■King Dedede - Hecatom
■Kirby- Icege
■Lucas- Saitsu
■Mario- SoVi3t
■Peach- Combo_knight
■Pit- ForgeDigger
■Yoshi- orochizoolander
■Zelda- SumAznDude
■Captain Falcon-90s arcade
■Falco*-Vynce
■Ganondorf- GodotsRevenge
■Jigglypuff- highlulu
■Lucario- 3rdSTRikeLOVE
■Luigi- BullDancer
■Marth- Synonym
■Mr. Game & Watch- WTF-AKUMA-HAX
■Ness - Bious
■R.O.B.- Pietastic
■Toon Link- The Chief
■Wolf-AlphaCommando
[/details]Modified brawl roster.
Thanks Combo. I had to get the damn monkey though? I hate Diddy lol
Vynce:
God dammit RF. Argh.
What seems to be the problem, Vynce?
The Jailer can be turned without it being obvious. We wouldnt necessarily know to lynch him. Right? unless im missing something. So, it still strikes me as a huge risk.

@highlulu Have you gone through the entire thread now? If so, who are you going to be your main suspects next day phase?
Asking again.

As a heads up, I am gonna be at Disneyland tonight (yeah yeah I spend too much time there, I get it) and will be a little late on the writeup.
You know what needs to be done.

■Wolf-AlphaCommando


RadicalFuzz:
pietastic:
RadicalFuzz:
pietastic:
Augustus:
RadicalFuzz:
While it is possible for Vynce to be affected by actions tonight, the Jailer will know who used them. This lowers the possibility of him being Promoted to zero and by being in Jail, Vynce can not Promote his underlings if he is the big bad.
We can use this to inform the Jailer of the identities of our roles. If the Priest, Fortune Teller, and Witch all target Vynce, effectively nothing will happen but the Jailer will learn their identities. I’d advise Helsing and the Doctor to hold unless they’re 139% sure, but in the event Helsing or the Doctor kills Vynce then the Jailer will know his/their persona(s) as well. If we’re afraid of the possibility of the information being used against us if he gets converted, there is a way to guarantee the Town will know.Ooh. I like this. And Vynce doesn’t necessarily have die for the Jailer to find out who Van Helsing is. Just have both Van Helsing and the Soldier target Vynce. Vynce is protected and the Jailer gets to know who Van Helsing is.
Still not convinced. All roles involved must trust one another to commit to the human cause and submit their actions on time and correctly. Quite a risk. The reward isn’t that high–one person (or maybe two), both of whom might be idiots and would withhold/disclose that information at the wrong time, gets the role identities of some critical roles. The worst-case scenario is a disaster. Monsters get knowledge that amounts to a game-winning advantage.
Given all that, the incentive for the jailer to run off and join a monster faction, and bring that game-winning advantage with him, is too high. Seeing ahead to that, the participants would have some uncertain judgments before them and the web of trust would inevitably break down.
Too much of a risk in my view, but let’s keep talking.
That’s the weak link, having to trust the other roles. I’m sure that each pairing will be discussing it in their PM and come to their own conclusions about how much information they’re willing to provide. Don’t forget also that, even if the Soldier dies and the Jailer’s identity is somehow made public, the Jailer can only be recruited by one faction. If we’re going to go through with this, the Jailer will be a valuable asset to both the Vampires & Werewolves, so it’s very possible that they fight each other to bite him and/or try to get him killed once bitten.
Personally, I’d trust about 95% of the players here, if they were the appropriate roles, to at the very least consider the possibility and submit their action if they’re going through with it.
Another thing I just noticed, each faction has a way to kill off their own members without letting them receive a Last Gasp. Vampires can sacrifice a member as any role and Dracula forges a LG, and Werewolves can Assassinate their own member and just deny him a Last Gasp.
I trust 0% of the players to do the right thing. This is a game of deception.
And, this particular play is classic game theory. If everyone cooperates, it could work. But if one person cheats, they could take all.
Let’s keep talking. I think that as we continue, you’re at least giving me information on your worldview.
This is a game of deception, but it is guaranteed that the roles involved are, at the moment and for a short while afterwards, civilian. In this case if one person cheats (Jailer wants to get bitten) then he will get lynched and lose the game. While I wouldn’t like trusting others to handle this correctly, all parties involved are by definition on the same side. Mafia will have no access to that information unless they get the Jailer, and we will not have access to that information until the Jailer deems it appropriate. These terms are acceptable to me.
Combo_Knight:
@RadicalFuzz, off the top of my head this is what I believe the correspondance was.
[details=Spoiler]■Bowser- DarkGeneral
■Donkey Kong- Aidebit
■Diddy Kong-RadicalFuzz
■Fox-Azure
■Ice Climbers- The Co-Jones
■Ike- Missing Person
■King Dedede - Hecatom
■Kirby- Icege
■Lucas- Saitsu
■Mario- SoVi3t
■Peach- Combo_knight
■Pit- ForgeDigger
■Yoshi- orochizoolander
■Zelda- SumAznDude
■Captain Falcon-90s arcade
■Falco*-Vynce
■Ganondorf- GodotsRevenge
■Jigglypuff- highlulu
■Lucario- 3rdSTRikeLOVE
■Luigi- BullDancer
■Marth- Synonym
■Mr. Game & Watch- WTF-AKUMA-HAX
■Ness - Bious
■R.O.B.- Pietastic
■Toon Link- The Chief
■Wolf-AlphaCommando
[/details]Modified brawl roster.
Thanks Combo. I had to get the damn monkey though? I hate Diddy lol
Vynce:
God dammit RF. Argh.
What seems to be the problem, Vynce?
The Jailer can be turned without it being obvious. We wouldnt necessarily know to lynch him. Right? unless im missing something. So, it still strikes me as a huge risk.
Let me say it this way: Do you know who the Jailer is?
What I meant by “cheating” was for him to out himself as the Jailer, be it subtly or openly, so he could get recruited. Let’s say this plan happens and he knows most every role, and he claims at the beginning of a night phase. Is one Mafia faction going to yield to the other when a prize as juicy as knowing multiple roles is at stake? I’d wager that both sides would try to Bite him, even if it ended in a tie. In that scenario we lynch him the next day, his allegiance is solidified as civilian, and he leaves us the identities if he feels it will help us. If he feels otherwise then he takes them to the Loser’s Lounge.
Apparently I’m Mewtwo because I’m not even there.

Combo_Knight:
@RadicalFuzz, off the top of my head this is what I believe the correspondance was.
[details=Spoiler]■Bowser- DarkGeneral
■Donkey Kong- Aidebit
■Diddy Kong-RadicalFuzz
■Fox-Azure
■Ice Climbers- The Co-Jones
■Ike- Missing Person
■King Dedede - Hecatom
■Kirby- Icege
■Lucas- Saitsu
■Mario- SoVi3t
■Peach- Combo_knight
■Pit- ForgeDigger
■Yoshi- orochizoolander
■Zelda- SumAznDude
■Captain Falcon-90s arcade
■Falco*-Vynce
■Ganondorf- GodotsRevenge
■Jigglypuff- highlulu
■Lucario- 3rdSTRikeLOVE
■Luigi- BullDancer
■Marth- Synonym
■Mr. Game & Watch- WTF-AKUMA-HAX
■Ness - Bious
■R.O.B.- Pietastic
■Toon Link- The Chief
■Wolf-AlphaCommando
[/details]Modified brawl roster.
Why is Falco, aka @Vynce, starred?
Jail

Thanks Combo. I had to get the damn monkey though? I hate Diddy lol
I was gonna originally make you Ike, but you took away your Ryu Avi, and Missing person seems like a better pick for Ike, considering his backstory with the whole er tranny thing.
You know how Ike and Soren are so close and whatnot.

Apparently I’m Mewtwo because I’m not even there.
Ah sorry, I knew I was missing someone.
You’d have been some nobody character like Samus.

Augustus:
Apparently I’m Mewtwo because I’m not even there.
Ah sorry, I knew I was missing someone.
You’d have been some nobody character like Samus.
by that I meant that doesn’t visibly appear in my custom roster.

Bious:
SoVi3t:
Bious:
In fact, guess what I’m bringing back?
Bious’ suspicion chart!
Alpha: 60%
Icege: 65%
Zoo: 75%
Soviet: 70%Vynce: LYNCH THIS MOTHERFUCKA
Will get everyone else when I’m off of work.
so you care to explain that suspicion chart, or can we all just post names and random numbers pulled from a hat?
Oerba: -2%
The way you’ve been acting reminds me of the UMvC2 game, and last time I was wary of you day 1 you were Mafia.
dude it’s still the first day. I have suspicions on people too, but to start throwing up random numbers with nothing to back them, especially for just a list of random people, lacks any sense. Besides, throwing up several names like u did just reeks of a mafia tactic. I’m willing to bet at least one of those people in that list is mafia, and is probably in your monster group. Pick 3 random people who’s gameplay worries your group, and add somebody you’re willing to sacrifice (in this case I am guessing Icege), then hope the town does the work for you.

So if we’re giving lists of 3 give me 3 people you are suspicious of.

Dem bolded letters…
Its going to spell GUNIT
Lets just skip the formalities like,
“So, who’s winning the NIT tournament this year?”
also everyone forgot about underline for the lynch votes. Look into the psychology of copying, following the leader, forgetting what you already know, how to play and everything!
Fucking Co-Jones, man.
I’m sure there’s one, maybe two mafia (faction independent) that voted for me though. Probably also on him.
Right now, my suspects are:
Azure (slightly less now)
The Chief
RadicalFuzz
pietastic
That’s just how I see them right now. DarkGeneral may join that list later.
But God damnit, Co-Jones getting killed without any sort of contribution as detective is some straight up Ben Perkins shit.
Why are we afraid to say that many Mafia pulled strings then also voted for Co Jones? & questioning the reasons why people bandwagoned, or going back to who first introduced that choice of vote?
You already know people bandwagoned so they can’t answer that they didn’t. This is a night phase to get information without the fear of a lot of crazy crap happening because we talked too much.

Why are we afraid to say that many Mafia pulled strings then also voted for Co Jones? & questioning the reasons why people bandwagoned, or going back to who first introduced that choice of vote?
You already know people bandwagoned so they can’t answer that they didn’t. This is a night phase to get information without the fear of a lot of crazy crap happening because we talked too much.
Unfortunatly Jones was the perfect scapegoat. We can’t assume that anyone knew that fucker had a role because he never posted. Sure some Mafia might have bandwagoned, but thanks to all the split votes this phase it’d be too difficult picking em out.
@Sumazndude How does Godotsrevenge strike you? Seem like the type of guy to tell you to lay low while people distract each other from you?
Its still a good idea to get those votes back for the next lynch by informing the bandwagoners to think critically about their choice, why, who told them to vote this way and if they should realize they have been swayed.
(However, yeah I did follow Bious, but wanted to no lynch the whole way. Where Chief saw me ever saying I wanted to lynch pietastic, I do not know.)
While also asking what they think about pietastic. Is he one of them too, an unlucky civ who wanted to vote co-jones out, or worse.

SoVi3t:
Bious:
SoVi3t:
Bious:
In fact, guess what I’m bringing back?
Bious’ suspicion chart!
Alpha: 60%
Icege: 65%
Zoo: 75%
Soviet: 70%Vynce: LYNCH THIS MOTHERFUCKA
Will get everyone else when I’m off of work.
so you care to explain that suspicion chart, or can we all just post names and random numbers pulled from a hat?
Oerba: -2%
The way you’ve been acting reminds me of the UMvC2 game, and last time I was wary of you day 1 you were Mafia.
dude it’s still the first day. I have suspicions on people too, but to start throwing up random numbers with nothing to back them, especially for just a list of random people, lacks any sense. Besides, throwing up several names like u did just reeks of a mafia tactic. I’m willing to bet at least one of those people in that list is mafia, and is probably in your monster group. Pick 3 random people who’s gameplay worries your group, and add somebody you’re willing to sacrifice (in this case I am guessing Icege), then hope the town does the work for you.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2013/02/michael-jordan-laughing.gif
So if we’re giving lists of 3 give me 3 people you are suspicious of.
Vynce, MP, and OZ, but even then, they’re barely suspicious in my eyes. Still way to early to know anything yet.