OZ has a connection to Chief, like Pimp said. If he’s not UC, he’s expendable. I noted OZ has been like Chief this game, a full 180 from how he usually plays. After Synonym’s help in the morning, I pointed that out again about OZ being like Chief.
Roles that have already been used are not completely worthless to the civs now. Yes role claims can be useful now. Gundam and Bulletproof have not been figured out. Mafia doesn’t need to know those as priority anyway. Still do not claim those roles you actually are, that’s not even important if you’re being looked at - especially if there isn’t a good chance to lynch you - like you need to prove you’re civ.
Gundam has been used, we know he’s Civ. Bulletproof should not be said who that is, plus we don’t know if he’s Mafia anyway. Luckster 2 has been given out, sadly so he may not help that much.
Chief wasn’t lying when he said he had an important, UC-like role and even outright said:
“I’m playing this way to cover my role. You’re lucky I’m not UC” when he was being questioned strongly. That leaned to the side of saying he had some other important Civ role before we found out who he really was. Using everything he could to avoid suspicion, but that does actually still help us here.
Think of how many important Civ roles are left. If you’re just going to bandwagon vote or be worried about saving yourself, you better help those roles by making claims to throw off the Mafia role hunt of those real characters. Are we going to move to lynch a fake role claim on a role that can help Civs? It only helps Civs and hurts Mafia.
Yeah it will be a cluster of lots of claims, even by Mafia. But now someone in the real role can either trust a player (they know is not their role) they see is helping them if previous gameplay and facts line up with them being civilian too. But we also force Mafia to slip up and not just role claim the roles they want to. The ones they think are good enough to claim and not be figured out. Probably one at a time to get us all talking about only that, screwing up a good vote.
[details=Spoiler]It doesn’t matter to me self preservation anymore, and I should’ve helped role claim better roles when you guys didn’t believe me, even if I’m sure Mafia already knows and wouldn’t kill me, than just proving myself to you guys 15 times. Other role claims were of course the youtube links:
Blackuma Hax
"Death Grips - Hacker"
Lulz Korean Commercials: “Com-pyu-tah TITTY SAMBO”
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tl;dr : if you know you’re civ and not a helpful role, you can role claim to help those roles.
Here let me earn infrequent’s “trust” by doing what he was doing. Copying him if he thinks that’s not suspicious at all.
“Who should Mafia kill next?! Azure or Hecatom?!!!” He doesn’t care about timing either, so I won’t. Talking about Mafia kills in the day phase. I guess I’ll talk about Day Lynches in the night phase - instead of what he should’ve done to look like a Civ - talk about the Vigilante kill and make Mafia squirm a little bit.
There’s some good and even a lot of bad in that idea. Of course nobody will read it / do it and I can’t anyway. But just putting that out there. Only really looking for Gundam to help more because he still can & might think he can’t help anymore besides voting.
The only problem with role claiming Gandamu is, like you’ve said, mafia claiming the role. There isn’t really any way for a civilian to prove he has that role without getting lynched.
Mafia you’re not safe. “some threatening quote by infrequent also about no protection walking around in the dark and stubbing his toe on a LEGO” or whatever he said
WelL, looks like things are coming into focus for both sides so I can be my direct, usual self now however, I’m still not going to role claim as I feel not doing so is vital to the civs winning.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I HAVE BAITED THE FORGER OUT OF HIDING NOW WE ALL KNOW WHO TO VOTE FOR IN CASE THERE WAS ANY DOUBT.
I didn’t know who it would come from, but finally someone besides me has noticed definitively who is not the UC. If I was the UC I’d gladly role claim now to trade my life next night for a fradulant mafia’s but, since the cats out of the bag and I’m not, we have our lynch target after Pie :tup:
I didn’t do a count but I doubt it, and even if you do, you’ve posted like one or two lines compared to me who actually scoured and reread every post at least twice and has indirectly helped the civs by misdirecting mafia. I still suspect you, but due solely to PW kind of vouching for you I put forgedigger and especially infrequent lurker ahead of you.
Forget what my post you quoted, I got pie to role claim as mafia he’s dead, mission accomplished.
Pie’s the forger so he can’t and won’t give any proof he’s UC. PW thought I was UC so he told all of you I was otaku so mafia would ignore me while role hunting unsuccessfully leaving me to investigate however, but what PW didn’t know is that I was protecting whoever the real UC is by soft role claiming him so if mafia suspected me that would give UC even more time to investigate which he now can because forger is going to die.
Please, everyone read my last post, it’s what my entire game plan has been leading up to. Now with all the speculation and even PW sticking his neck out for me as UC mafia will be forced to night kill me because it would be illogical to take a chance on some random civ than on me who has been floating around the UC role all game.
UC, THE FORGER IS GOING TO DIE SOON, AND MAFIA ARE TARGETING ME BECAUSE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THEM TO DO SO AND NOTHING IS CHANGING THAT, YOU ARE NOW FREE TO INVESTIGATE WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING KILLED OR AUTOTUNED, YOU BETTER FUCKING APPRECIATE IT!
Not that I blame you as this is your second mafia game and my game plan was a lot riskier and more advanced than I planned on it being since PW threw that otaku curveball, but I’ve explained myself finally, so if you still think I’ve ever been “behind” you haven’t learned anything from last game. I’m not going to argue with you any further it’s not going to help civs win.
After we kill pie and he’s confirmed forger, let’s go after infrequent. If pie isn’t idol than feel free to lynch me next.
Not at all. I’m just pointing out that even with a role claim Gandamu can’t be confirmed until he’s dead so it’s certainly an easier role for mafia to falsely claim than the bulletproof role or the UC.
Also OZ, you’re going to have to explain this a little more for those of us in the slow class. If you aren’t the UC how are you so convinced that you baited out the forger (Pie) and not the real UC?
Other then that, your play at the moment is 100x better than earlier. I guess maybe it was just an act.