I dunno, man. Scar set up his own brother to be killed and tried to get Simba killed in Exile. That’s pretty cold. Putting a bitch to sleep until some douche kisses her awake just isn’t the same.
Scar or Hades
Yeah, but he died like a bitch to a middle-age black woman, a 4’10" ish Mexican, and a laugh track.
I vote Gaston the douchiest Disney villain.
Yeah, the only one I’d be wary of would be Whoopi…
The rest of 'em would have been blue slime caliber to a REAL alpha male lion.
Mufasa would have forcefully fucked their world.
that’s true.
The thing is, I actually didn’t enjoy hunchback very much and it’s not one of the more popular well-known Disney movies, so Frollo doesn’t really resonate with most people. I think my main reason for choosing him is his awesome villain song
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he wasn’t singing about his dastardly plans in a delightful ‘i’m a bad guy’ kinda way. he was clearly becoming unhinged from the conflict between lust and faith. what makes him scary even today is the realization that people like him really existed and really did burn women out of sexual fear/desire/hatred.
Man, watching this sequence again…I’m amazed this managed to fit into a G-rated movie. I imagine some uncomfortable parents. This was pretty adult material - lust, hellfire, burning, damnation, sin.
Scar was good, i remember his ‘be prepared’ and ‘long live the king’ lines very well. he seemed to have a dash of class too, in a cultured way that’s hard to define in a Lion.
Maleficient was just pure fairy tale evil, no holds barred. “Now you face me, o prince, and all the powers of Hell!”
Scar is a Schemer. He knew he wasn’t a fighter and he knew it so he just planned you into a terrible terrible death. That man had brains…that can account for more then Brawn a lot of the time. He did kill his very huge older brother and didn’t lay much more then some claws on him in the process.
This is the best Disney villain.
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Frollo is probably tops. I personally think it’s pretty awesome that Jafar became a genie.
As The Lion King is the only Disney movie I like, I have to go with Scar. However, it’s not really an informed assessment.
I’d be much more willing to give The Lion King whatever props it ought deserve, but the mere fact of The Lion King 2’s existence docks the original at least one full Cool Point in all categories.
Also, if we’re doing ALL Disney animations, I’d have to give it up to Toy Story 3’s main villlain, for most dastardly.
Father Time is an evil, evil, motherfucker - makin’ Andy grow up.
Jafar was pretty bomb too. The only one I wasn’t feeling too much was the guy from The Princess and the Frog.
AL, you really need to watch Hunchback of Notre Damn; its hands down their best work.
I don’t know if you can top Lion King. I just re-watched it on Blu Ray, and the opening of that film is a work of art. It’s so amazing. It, to me, is the pinacle of Disney’s hand-drawn animation.
Gaston was just a jerk. He wasn’t threatening in the least. He’s the kind of guy who would go into an Irish pub and fight just because all the cool kids are doing it, and then brag about how much ass he kicked even though it was just people passing out around him. That’s Gaston.
Disney’s interpretation of Hades was ridiculous (along with the other bastardizations of Greek mythology they performed). They made him seem like a typical deceitful annoyance without any real reason to fear him or his power. The stories you can read about the real Hades make this guy look like a saint.
Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_underworld#Myths_featuring_the_Underworld
Imagine if this happened in the film instead. Yeah, might have made us 100x more pissed off as kids, but looking at it now, would have been 1000x more awesome.
Bonus points to Frollo for being voiced by Tony fucking Jay, the god damned Elder God.
Edit: Hence why i said Gaston was a douche. He’s pretty much completely ineffectual. He’s just in love with himself and everyone else should be to, not because of anything he’s actually done, but just because. He’s literally a Bro.
also if Disney attempted to be true to Greek myth Zues would be the biggest douche in the whole story. Hades can’t even touch Zeus in the “I’m a heartless trickster asshat” category.
I recently watched Hercules again and still thought it was awesome. Never saw it as trying to be like Greek Myth. Just doing its own thing while using the characters.
Michael Eisner…
I don’t mind them taking a new spin on a myth (you’re not going to portray Zeus as having turned into an animal to commit adultery and impregnate a mortal woman in the process in a family movie), or the idea that Hercules was half-mortal because he left one drop of milk in a magic bottle, or anything else that happened in that movie. But in terms of villainy, they could have done better with Hades.
Has anyone ever done Hades right?
I just wanna say that I think people are underestimating Gaston. The guy incited a pretty good mob within 1 minute and the prologue of the Kill The Beast song. The man had an entire town ON LOCK with bitches fainting if his name is said. He was also a pretty good hunter (have you seen his trophies?). There was no one in town as admired as him. He was everyone’s favorite guy. Everyone was awed and inspired by him. And wasn’t very hard to see why.
This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:
Also, word on the street is when he was a lad he ate four dozen eggs every morning to help him get large. And now that he’s grown he eats 5 dozen eggs so he’s roughly the size of a barge.
I like girls who look like they’re either recovering drug addicts or like they’ve been hit. I would likely still fuck Lohan.