HAV - the gears are in motion. Lets talk soon, I’d like you to take point on this project once I get it moving.
Tataki - I totally feel you, but the problem as explained by Buktooth and Choi is that people are either not creating the content you want to see, or are doing it and not sending it my way.
Yo, I like what I’m seeing in some of these posts. If you guys are serious about leveling up SRK and having more technical articles out there, I would like to help. I was thinking of doing a “video analysis” series similar to the ones UltraDavid did a while back. I thought those videos were pure genius as they really delved deep into the meta-game psyche by explaining minor, easily missed details in full color.
Maybe we could also get a couple top-players and have them give out technical information about their character/playstyle/theory. I’m thinking this is one big thing America is lacking compared to Japan, top players openly discussing high-level strategies and theories. Maybe we can hop on this bandwagon to help level up the other 98% of players who don’t compete at Japanese-level and help develop the game ourselves, instead of relying on Japan to do it for us.
Dunno, just throwing some ideas out there, but I’m really digging what SRK might become in the future.
I’d like to add my voice, hands or whatever needed to the cause. This September I will be launching my shot at making a Fighting Game community for my country so until then I will be somewhat busy… But after that I would love to help as much as I can to push things forward. I have some ideas about content and whatnot and I would love to share them in order to (for lack of a better word)make the community better as a whole.
I just wanted to make sure we are on the same train of thought.
The next step is of course working to make that happen.
Maybe there can be a region highlight or something of the sort so every week especially for areas that have a bit harder time making it out to the rest of the states like Hawaii.
im just gonna suggest a game timeline kind of thing, id love more info about when stuff was discovered in early MvC2
That’s implied Arturo, you know I’m from Texas, you really put that past me? He was livin in Austin when he qualified that year 
My point is that his scenario is analogous to Fuudo’s. Showed up in one tourney way back, and then made it back on the big stage years later. Japan’s seen Latif twice YEARS ago, and America has seen Fuudo once, MAYBE twice (not many US viewers on the charity cup.) I guarantee you the majority of Japanese evo viewers had no idea who he was before this event, just like the US with Fuudo.
Anyhows, to stop from going in circles, my point is that the active audience that keeps up with the streams are going to be familiar with the players they see. Fuudo is barely present in any major tourneys that are streamed, you can’t argue that, which is why his name isn’t as well known.
I’m actually very interested to see this project take off. That’s a really great idea spawned from all this discussion.
I’d be glad to help out any way I can as well. I’m not quite a hard drive full of info like HAV, but I’d volunteer to put in the work if anything needs delegated.
That’s the entire point of what I’m saying. The knowledge base should extend past just what gets streamed. At least it should here. Hopefully, we can get this rolling soon.
If people who almost never post like arturo buktooth and choi came to this thread to speak their minds, you can see this is a serious subject that bothers the community.
I posted a thread on dustloop cuz we ain’t fucking around.
It seems a little late to change the tone of the front page now…but I nonetheless respect the spirit of what HAV’s trying to do here.
Much as I hate all the perennial bitching about new blood killing the scene, I (as semi-new blood myself) would like to see a greater frontpage stance towards encouraging people to go beyond spectating and try their own hand at competition. Even at the low level, actual competitive or semi-competitive play (read: play casuals like you give a fuck and actually want to improve your game) cultivates a much healthier and more informed understanding of what a game’s REAL strengths and weaknesses are overall as a medium for player skill. People should be encouraged to form a WORKING relationship with the games on SRK, not just a sewing circle for passive-aggressive cheap shots at Justin Wong’s hair. (Real talk: I kinda miss the dumb wave thing. Don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone…)
One idea for a feature I’d like to see on the front page is a video tutorial (or at least a well-written/edited text tutorial) to help intermediate players (people who have gotten past the “how to do a Hadoken” stage and are ready to learn a character for serious play) learn a character on their own (at least in a relatively simple game like AE) using frame data. Not just the basic stuff about plus and minus, safety and, uh…un-safety, teach people how to “build their own” BnB following the basic rules of what makes a good combo for a certain purpose (combos starting from low short or 3-frame normal, how to link to medium/heavy normals for greater hitstun and damage, counter-hit links from frame traps, how to punish blocked Gief EX green hand with more than just throw). Creative thinking stuff, that encourages semi-casual players to go that little bit harder on the game, and shows them that they have more potential in these games than just watching.
I’m not entirely convinced it can be done; SRK front page seems kinda set in stone now as general community news + random YouTube fluff. But a tone change WOULD be pretty nice, if it can be made to happen.
How about if the articles that really matter (things that HAV and others have been mentioning) get stickied at the top of the front page for say a week and all the bullshit like ‘buy street fighter easter eggs at Walmart’ can get flushed through underneath the sticky with all the other tripe.
Underrated players are not exclusive to fighting games. I can name all sorts of underrated players in the NFL who were as good or better than most out there, but because they weren’t marketing material. One of my all time favorite players in the NFL was Rod Smith for the Denver Broncos. The dude was an awesome receiver who retired with two superbowl rings and ranked high on several of the all time stats lists. Yet even now he is still underrated.
There will always be players who don’t gain the credit they deserve, but that is nothing new.
Rod Smith was good.
Are you looking for solutions Hav, or do you just want to execute the new people just interested in the hype? lol.
We could always try doing something similar to TeamLiquid (the SRK of the Starcraft community). They have a bunch of writers culled from the best contributors on forum who have the power to post on the front page. This is a serious departure from SRK where it seems like Keits is the only one carrying the burden of reporting the going-ons of the scene. Perhaps we should follow TL’s example and nominate our best contributors and give them the power to do the same. However, for this to work, we would need SRK’s “Top Brass” in on this plan.
This wasn’t about crucifying the new people, at all. It was more about a lack of guidance, from SRK, towards making these people actually knowledgeable on the games, and the scene. Like I said a bunch of times in this thread, the hype stuff is fine. It’s cool. Even the really silly stuff is fine… my issue was that I feel like that stuff completely overruns anything remotely substantive.
I feel like we’ve got at least something going right now, and enough people have seen the thread, and added their opinions, to have made it worthwhile. We’ll see where this goes.
please put someone who knows more about fighting games on front page duty.
we don’t need 2-3 eventhubs in the community, let them post the worthless garbage and appeal to the scrubs. let srk be the place to go when they finally decide they want to learn.
Disagree with this… SRK should cater to the lesser players and spectators. SRK should just cater to more serious players, also, in meaningful ways that only SRK can.
I would actually like to see a Team Liquid style of posting for knowledgable posters. I think that would be awesome.
You can have a news section like we do now and also an article section next to it.
1996-1998 Broncos references? I love where this thread is going more and more with every post.