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There was this place close to Honolulu I went to called KMA racing that worked on mostly Japanese cars. I believe KMA stood for Kiss My Ass. Anyway they had some consignments as well. Anyone remember the Eagle Talon or the 3000 Toyota and so forth.
what car do you drive?
Currently I daily my 93 Ford Escort GT swapped drive-train with the Mazda 323 Rally spec (It took me over a year to get the parts and it’s not exact but it’s the same platform) and I also installed the turbo. I bought it thinking I would actually do rally, then I realized cost of car was within budget for the build, the cost of actually Rallying is absurd. It’s not stripped down nor does it have the roll cage/bars.
Edit: I did get help from some buddies, it wasn’t all done by me but for the most part I did the work.
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I’m just kidding btw. If you built your own car and like it, then that’s cool you know?
I figured 
the thing with most base models is guys tinker with them to make them their own, then they spend more money on a base instead of something else that will suffice. I would actually sell my car if it was worth 1/2 of the money that was put into it, but as we all know your car is never worth that.
The question was ‘WHAT do you drive?’ Which I see you’ve answered.
With what you have and what’s done to it, you still dont have the room to talk. Regardless of your opinion of ‘overrated’ cars, you do realize that not everyone wants to work with the lowest common denominator? There are also a shit ton of reasons someone would want a ‘liked’ car. It’s already great from the factory, goes good, looks good, has a level of covet, and value will always be there if you decide to sell/trade, because it’s a desired car in the first place.
When you start out with a poor platform, you’ll always be limited in what you can do and that offset in initial cost will be outweighed in the fact that everything will be custom and/or hard to find. If you infact have GTX swap in your Escort, then you have 130 BPH (110 WHP or less if you did AWD). Just being a turbo car, 30-50 WHP should be easy/free. 180 at the crank, less at the wheels. Then everything after that point is going to be completely custom or small gains from other cars. See unlike most, I know about the ‘little guys’ You might be able to find SOME small things from other Mazda’s or Fords of that era, maybe a non VVT NB MIata cams would be a cheap upgrade, for example, but how far are you really going to take it?
Any of those ‘overrated’ car you can go anywhere and do anything to them off the shelf.
By the time you can beat an S2K at the track, let just add I/H/E, tune, and good tires and pads to it, since the 323 is modded, you will have spent enough to have bought possibly a minimum example of an S2K. That’s not going to be a cheap car by the time it can push 250 BHP or keep up with an S2K. Even then you’d probably be relying 100% on straight line speed. Also you’d basically be married to that thing until it dies; insurance isnt going to give you shit, and you’ve acknowledged the actual worth isnt near what you already have in it. Not only that, if you could build something less to beat a well performing overrated car (in your opinion) then mostly you’d dedicate that build as a track only car, it wouldnt be a daily or a ‘fun’ daily. Sorry if I’m assuming, but I’ve been around this car shit a looong ass time, you might be a cool dude, who knows his car and has passion for it, but almost nobody is dailying/modding an (American) Escort because they totally want to. Unless you’re just that stubborn.
And myself, I have also have a swapped Civic which is great for dailying. And sure it’s not too far away from being able to keep up to an S2K (in straights), but it would still be a Civic… base for base, the cars dont even compare in dynamics. Same with any ‘overrated’ cars, sure some have uneducated fanboys that never drove them, but those that have do praise them for a reason.
I havent driven a Skyline…and yet there’s people wanting to give up S2K’s for R32 GTS-T’s an STi/EVo’s for R32 GT-R’s now they are legal here in US. I dont blindly follow fanboyism myself. I would not give up my S2000 for a 25 year old base model Skyline which is also slower. That would be real fanboyism to do so. I would not give up my Evo X for a 25 year old GT-R which also doesnt compare to that level.
Only thing we agree on is the NSX, Honda let it become eclipsed by a bunch of cars during its run, while still costing an arm and a leg; I wouldnt pay more than 20K for one that was not a real JDM NSX-R.
TL;DR s2gay fanboy
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Amtrak > your ph4ggot automobiles
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YOU OWN A MOTHERFUCKING ESCORT YOU BROKE PIECE OF SHIT. Like I tried to say nicely before…Youre not modding or dailying junk like that because YOU HAVE A CHOICE.
I tried to be cool, but fuck you. You aint shit, your car aint shit, and my weakest car has more power and handling than your $5 trash. I would hate S2000’s too if I was a broke bitch.
I have a car for Monday-Friday, one for Saturday, and one for Sunday, and you wont beat me any day of the fuckin week. Your opinion is irrelevant eat a dick.
Oi, quit your useless yapping. If he wants to drive a Escort, he can drive a Escort.
Wait up, he’s the one coming in talking about S2K’s are gay unprovoked. Shut the fuck up.
BTW, he doesnt WANT to drive an Escort, he HAS to.
What’s wrong with you? On your rag or something?
He made a fair point that both the S2000 AP1 and AP2, and the NSX are extremely expensive to a point where one would reconsider other options. He did state a misconceived notion about the differences between the S2000s, GT86, and Miata.
You both are missing the point of the Tuning scene or car building culture. It’s YOUR car, it’s YOUR build. It’s about artistically expressing yourself through building or tinkering ah whatever.
You’re a little angry, I guess I’m broke because I choose to drive my project and I like driving it? I could sell it, but I don’t want to. I could take a loss, but it works fine for me. I guess I’m broke because I put money into it though, solid reasoning skills.
You’re now claiming our better because you assume you have more money and I’m not willing to argue with you over trivial stuff.
Now you’re talking about racing and you assume you can beat me therefore my opinion is irrelevant and can eat a dick.
Well sir, if a car is made for rally I would hope you could beat me on the street. Obviously you’re not intelligent to realize the different mediums in which cars can be built for. Mine is just fine for what I do. If you wanna take your homo/chick car and brag how amazing it is go ahead. I don’t care. I’m sure your S2K gets bodied by any Miata with decent engine swap for less money. Grats on overpaying for less value in head to head. I’m not even going into how they’re different cars from set up because you can’t tell the difference between something for fun (Which I had excess money for) and trying to be a bro(which you clearly are).
Grats on your 3 cars, maybe one day my dick will be small enough to actually give a damn about impressing people on the internet with make believe money conversations with zero substance.
I agree 100% with you. The Miata, GT86 and S2K are all different animals from the get go. However if we’re talking pure performance value the Miata is probably the best option with the widest aftermarket support. If it’s a build on your preferences then it doesn’t really matter at all.
No. I just said my cars are superior.
Sure if by chick car, you mean car that can actually attract chicks?
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To retain the handling, it would need a HONDA motor. Which the K24 is a $7K+ swap all in. Add that to the cost of the shell. You’re not putting that in a shitty $500 shell. And a V8 doesnt retain handling, not enough to beat an S2K.
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Stop bench racing. You dont have the said car so what does it matter what it can do?
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Unlike you, I’ve owned a Miata. It’s fun, but still…just a Miata.
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Excuses, excuses.
If it seems like I’m boasting its because of your ignorant posts. You keep talking about what cars you dont own can do to an S2K. Your actual car cant beat an S2K, you dont have a swapped Miata, and Toyobaru has already been compared to the S2K and it loses in all categories.
BTW, make believe money doesnt put cars in the driveway/garage. You havent shown a single pic of this supposed GTX swapped Escort. In 2016 thats a snap and a few clicks away. But let me guess, you dont need to impress anyone.
You dont get tickets for parking in the grass where you live?
Jesus fucking christ
Dude,
K series engines weigh ~410 lbs @ 167 hp and 167 tq
B series engines weigh ~400 lbs @ 0hp and -50 tq
H series weight ~480 lbs @200 hp and 150 tq
LS1 weight ~410 lbs @ 350 hp and 350 tq
LS6 weight ~410 lbs @ 405 hp and 400 tq
LS3 weight ~450 lbs @430 hp and 424 tq
Hemi Eagle weight ~490 lbs @ 390 hp and 407 tq
Coyote V8 weights ~410 lbs @ @410 hp and 390 tq
Hey guys, I think in the big picture of things, this is all subjective. Enjoy what you want. If you base car A to car B based on figures alone to make your decision on what ride you want, do it. If it’s due to growing up and having that first impression of the car leave a lasting memory that regardless of the negatives about it you still would love and enjoy having one, do it. And as we all know there are people that only find cars as a mode of transportation, they don’t give a shit about anything other than if it can take their kids to their after school practice and be able to pick up dinner on the way back.
When it came to bikes, I had a lot of people tell me the suzuki sv650 was a great bike to track due to being a twin and having smooth predictable power delivery, easily affordable parts to replace, and after a couple other mods, it would handle as well as any other supersport. But when I had one over last summer, I fucking hated it. I never tried a motorcycle that I felt disgusted to ride until I rode this one.
Though if I ever get a chance to own a Honda NSR250R, I would not give 2 fucks if it rode worse than the sv650, because that bike has more sentimental value to me over any of the bikes I’ve owned in the past or ones that are new and amazing according to everyone and their mothers. Basically, we should all just get a long and appreciate the shared interests of these vehicles.
My BRZ is objectively faster than the S2shit.
With what turbo kit or swap? Lol