*SPOILER WARNING* Watchmen the graphic novel

Is there anyone here who reads 100 Bullets? I tried to find a thread but came up short. Maybe I haven’t looked hard enough.

No. I guess I should stea…pick that up using money soon.

I can’t wait till everyone is reading Watchmen and they are like “it was so good blah blah” and I can act like a dick because I read it before it was “cool”

THen I can be like “omg, did you know the one Rorschach chapter is ACTUALLY a Rorschach?”

And then people will be like “Shut up! no way!”

It’s my favorite watchmen fact to show people, because the reaction is always the same.

Then I say “yeah, there is a whole bunch of hidden crap” and link them to the annotated watchmen.

I did the exact same thing to DeDesiCanadian and his reaction was right on point.

But I read it before it was cool too. :crybaby::crybaby:

I think Slashy means that you weren’t cool until you read it AND he got to act like a dick.


Most cool people here read 100 Bullets… We’re just too cool to start a thread. All those other superhero addicts start feeling threatened and insecure whenever we start a thread about awesome non-superhero genre comics.

Either that, or I’m too damn lazy. Nah, probably just too cool.

I’ll take a shot at outlining some reasons to be skeptical about the Watchmen movie.

Yes, yes you did.

Remember when I told you that the Rorschach issue was actually a Rorschach?

That was awesome.

PS - I’ll always remember our time in the cool club.

I agree with a lot of your points, but still come down to basic conclusion of our times: a lot of people do not read. Will not read. Even with the popularity of the Watchmen comic now which i myself only picked up and started reading comics recently, but before that i have, for the past 8 years, have read a novel or two a month, consistantly, everything from Ulysses, CLockwork Orange, The Last Temptaion of Christ, to books of short stories such as the Last Exit to Brooklyn etc. When these movies get made into films they fail. They loose depth, and the intricatcies that force readers to think way more critically on the subject matter than any 2 hour blockbuster film can achieve. But only really in my eyes do they fail because i read the literature, and devolped the personal relationships and learning that stem from it.

I got a question for you guys. What are all the morally ambiguous things in the Watchmen? Or if there is a site that has this info, great. I need this info for an assignment. And any help is appreciated.

Without giving away too much:

Spoiler

The entire friggin’ ending.

Yea, that’s the only one I could get on my own. I was just wondering if there was any more.

Well, consider the vigilante activities of all of the characters. There are pros and cons to civilians taking the law into their own hands, but there are also cons. And consider Dr. Manhattan’s use of superior physical and mental capabilities for and against normal human beings. Those are both morally ambiguous things.

Can anyone explain why exactly Dr Manhattan killed Rorschach? Been thinking about it lately

Surface reason: to prevent him from bringing the truth of the situation back to civilization.

Deeper reason: because Rorschach had a death wish, and Dr. Manhattan was granting it.

Even deeper reason: because Rorschach’s simplistic ideology was incompatible with Veidt’s new world of super-morality.*

(*See that? I coined that term myself. You heard it here first, folks.)

Another thing to consider: As a child Rorshach found that the death of many (Hiroshima bombing) was a right course of action, however, when that same thing happened to the people of the US (remember that Rorshach has a rather patriotic sense), he sort of couldn’t accept it/live with it.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the epitome of morally gray. It’s understandable that he found that acceptable as a child, because children tend to be less capable of grasping the full ramifications of something like that.

Adults, on the other hand, develop that understanding to the degree that it makes them uncomfortable to think about it too much. Rorschach attempts to cling to his black-and-white worldview beyond a reasonable point, in spite of the fact that the grayness of the world keeps trying to force its way in–and it finally does, when Veidt carries out his plan.

So when he got older, he rejected the Bombing and it’s ‘grayness’? Good points BTW :tup:

The New Frontiersman (the newspaper Rorschach sent his journal to) is a Tabloid. A right wing tabloid.

which means, even though WE know it’s 100% true, the credibility of the paper alone would pretty much destroy the credibility of Rorschach’s journal. There would be some who read it and believed it. But it would be the same people who read and believe everything in the Enquirer.

simply put, that’s the futility of it. Rorschach believes in the New Frontiersman, but unfortunately nobody else does. Hell, the New Frontiersman itself relegated the diary to the Crank File to begin with. It wasn’t until they had nothing else to write about that they plumbed the depths of the crank file, and found it.