so it seems like that frame trap is gen specific. Went through half the cast and gave up 
on seth and oni and dhalsim counter cl mp will lead into cr.hp.
I have a mule Facebook account that Iāve been using for my FG shenanigans: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001392947454 Iāll add a few of you. Maybe Iāll make a Twitter, too. Idk.
I went to Seasonsā Beatings, too. Laugh was actually in our hotel room along with a few other top players on Friday night, and he was absolutely DESTROYING FlashMetroidās Zangief with Rose. The match looked like it was at least 8-2 when I was watching. Though it did look like he didnāt really know the intricacies of Rose as a character rather than just being an amazing footsies player. He also woke up Ultraād during his match with Mago, which basically proves that heās not super familiar with the character. Oh, if only U1 was fast enough to do on wakeup. He did do some crazy combo into Super without a soul spiral that Iāve never seen anyone use before, though.
I did horrible in the actual tournament, despite basically blowing up most people I played in casuals. 
1-2. Lost to Perfect Legendās Akuma pretty convincingly for my first loss and to a random scrub Honda because my ultra 1 failed 3 times. I baited him into jumping over a soul spark three times despite his friend taping the match from behind us yelling āWATCH OUT FOR ULTRA WATCH OUT FOR ULTRA WATCH OUT FOR ULTRA WATCH OUT FOR ULTRAā once I started turtling. First time I got hit out of the damn ultra by j.mp or something, and the other 2 times he landed on the fireball instead of the ultra. I fucking wish that U1 combod off of a soul spark on an airborne opponent. Though I do need more Honda matchup knowledge.
I did have a super close set with Poongkoās Seth in casuals, though. 1-2. Not nearly as hard as I expected it to be.
I also only saw one other Rose besides Laugh and myself. I didnāt get to talk to him, though.
I also fucking hate PS3 and itās hard to do ANYTHING on it, let-alone 1 frame links and ultras/soul throws on reaction.
Lucky D:
or maybe he meant soul spark instead of soul spiral because by trading the recovery wayyy fasterā¦havenāt tried it tho
I did not realize there was a hitbox data on eventhub. Rose neutral jump HP looks disgustingly misleading.
yeah I saw that a long time ago and discovered that she has a lot of air attacks with some ok hitboxes but most of them are never used with her 
So her cr.lk is pretty retarded. Wish it was 3 frames lol.
Hitbox on her lk overheads are pretty good too.
been saying it since vanilla. That and FA hitbox. :shake:
cr. short needs to be jab cancellable so we can chain option select with it.
That would help in many match ups, like viper 
Wow, according to that hitbox chart, Roseās normals all have names, too? Interesting. Hereās a quick translation:
[details=Spoiler]Ground Jabs: Punch
nj.lp: Hand Spear
j.lp: Chop
cl.mp: Soul Sting
s.mp, cr.mp: Soul Punch
nj.mp: Soul Chop
j.mp: Soul Slice
cl.hp: Soul Wind
s.hp: Soul Breeze
cr.hp: Soul Lift
nj.hp, j.hp: Soul Crescent
cl.lk: Low Kick
s.lk: Inside Kick
cr.lk: Kick
nj.lk: Fall Stomp
j.lk: Jumping Kick
cl.mk: Soul Tip
s.mk: Soul Side Kick
cr.mk: Slide Kick
nj.mk: Jumping Air Kick
j.mk: Jumping Side Kick
cl.hk: Soul Calcagno (?)
s.hk: Soul Twist
cr.hk: Round Rose
nj.hk: Rose Stab Kick
j.hk: Rose Pain
Forward Throw: Soul Fall
Back Throw: Soul Loop[/details]
Her HK normals have some badass names, haha.
her neutral jump mp looks badass.
Yeahā¦ I need to study this, ASAP. I wasnāt aware it was on EH either. 
Also, on that nj.HP hitboxā¦ eww. I always thought it hit a broader area underneath her.
you guys seriously didnt know about these ?? man I shouldāve link this here when I found it a month ago >_>
Iām gonna start using nj.lp when someone tries to jump at and I know cr.hp usually trades with their move(vega / bison etc)
oh and yeah I tested it: Roseās nj.lp beats Bisonās devil reverse and head press >_>ā¦I think even the EX ones lol
Calcagno means āheelā in Italian. That normal shares some similarity to Soul Piede which must be why both are named in Italian specifically. In the Alpha series, the close standing hard kick basically looked exactly like Soul Piede except without moving you forward at all.
Ohhh, okay. I Googled the Japanese version and got an actor whose last name is Calcagno, Googled it in English and didnāt see anything about it meaning something in Italian, even though I figured it did. Heh.
I knew piede meant foot, though.
Anyone know where I can find Rose frame data all in one spot?
Here you go
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE/Rose
On another note, I think my new punish BnB will be, cr.HP/st.HK fireball fadc cr.HP drill. Does 330 damage, and I think the damage output for landing that combo is worth the meter. If the opponent is in the corner, replace the drill with reflect and soul throw and itāll do 391.
They need to fix Roseās Hit box on that Jn.HP
Fixed. :razzy:
Idk who to use in this game anymore. So many of my characters that i use got changed. There is no use for me to play anymore right now.