I’ve done a bit of mild modifications to my stick (tighter spring for a bit more resistance) so I’m still relatively new to this. Subsequently, please forgive me if this seems like a basic or silly question.
Anyway, I’m trying to see if there’s any way to make the sounds of my buttons a little less harsh. I’ve considered putting some material inside the stick itself to muffle the reverb inside the casing, but I’m not sure if that’s an effective approach to what may be a simple solution (i.e. “softer” buttons that make a little less noise when pressed).
I generally prefer the Sanwa feel (although I have yet to try buttons with increased resistance… I’d be willing to give it a shot) so if it’s just a matter of increasing the resistance of the spring there, that is another option.
Well if you have some spare buttons like MadCatz or something, you could try modding them for making them mostly silent. You see, most of the noise comes from plastic on plastic, which is why people are using pads to soften them. What you could do is try shortening the plunger (the part that your finger touches) by a mm or two, which should stop most of the sound coming from the contact. Just don’t shorten the snap tabs that keep the plunger in the barrel (the part that screws or snaps into the panel) because that’s what keeps the buttons in there. I have yet to test this mod from lack of time, but it should work. I have quite a few Hori buttons to test, but those are what I’m currently using in my prototype stick so…
By the way, don’t mess with the button springs. Not only will it change the feel of the button, but you won’t be able to reset it back to its normal tension if you don’t like it. Also, it would be hard to stretch the spring uniformly across all your buttons, so you could end up with buttons that all don’t feel the same. Better to just get a Seimitsu microswitch, as they have more tension that Sanwa switches do.
Yea, that seems to be what those Sanwa silent buttons do (add a bit of foam padding). I’m not experienced enough to have the confidence to start altering sizes and lengths on the buttons, but I may try manipulating my old buttons to experiment with some of the suggestions you provided.
As for the spring tension, I wouldn’t have dreamed of messing with that. I am curious to know how the Seimitsu buttons feel in comparison to the Sanwa, as generally I do prefer a bit of resistance when it comes to tactile feedback. I have no clue what a Seimitsu microswitch is, so you’ll have to explain that a bit.
NO! Not all sanwa and semitsu microswitches are interchangeable. I can’t tell you which you can change, but I can definitely tell you they are not all the same size.
Yes and no. Going with ComradeTao’s comment below:
Sanwa has 1 type of microswitch (the SW-68) that spans all their buttons (all snap-ins, all screw-ins, in both 30mm and 24mm).
Seimitsu has 2 types of microswitches: PS-14-D = used in their 30mm snap-ins (both clear and solids), and all their 24mm buttons (both snap-ins and screw-ins, and both clears and solids) PS-14-G = used ONLY in their 30mm screw-ins (both clears and solids)
PS-14-D and SW-68 are the same sizes, so those are interchangeable. PS-14-G are larger/chunkier, so they’ll only fit into Seimitsu screw-ins.
I use the OBSFS’s and I think the’re awesome at muffling sound and they are just as responsive as the standard buttons. Also nice videos dude, I enjoy the spider man
ALL PS-14-G’s (including the snap-in’s) use PS-14-G model microswitches. Go look at the Akihabarashop.jp website under the second column heading by the button pictures and you’ll see what I mean.
Newer model Skeleton buttons, the PS-14-K-N screw-in’s, ALSO use PS-14-G microswitches.
ANY Seimitsu button that uses the PS-14-D microswitch is cross-compatible with the standard Sanwa button which uses the SW-68 microswitch. That means the PS-14-D, PS-14-D-N, PS-14-D-N-K, PS-14-K, PS-14-P, AND PS-15 can use the SW-68 microswitch.
Likewise, you can use the PS-14-D microswitch in Sanwa OBSF-30/OBSF-24 buttons.
This is confusing which means you have to be extremely careful when you order replacement microswitches.
Also, PS-14-D microswitch-using buttons DO NOT feel all the same. The PS-14-P’s have a noticeably lighter feel (though still not as sensitive as OBSF-30 buttons) than many other Seimitsu buttons; likewise, the earlier PS-14-K Skeleton buttons (PS-14-D micro-equipped) are generally lighter feeling than the PS-14-K-N (PS-14-G micro-equipped) screw-in buttons.
You cannot go by the model number of the button any more than you can by the suffix lettering used in the name.
It’s frustrating but this goes by Japanese naming-conventions and with the Romanization – unless you can read kanji – you absolutely have to go by the catalog when ordering spares!!!
Okay, just so we’re clear: the microswitch is the component of the buttons that determines the resistance it takes to register an input, correct? Additionally, are these Seimistu microswitches compatible with the silent OBSFS’s? I don’t want squishy buttons, but sometimes I do feel like my buttons are a little TOO easy to press, and I remember the SF4 cabinet at San Jose State University having slightly more resistant buttons.
Do you know if these are available on Focus Attack? If I have to order from overseas, I’ll just deal with my setup as is.
Argh, didnt know that the ps14d swith is interchangable with the sw68 one.
I have a lot of seimitsu buttons with the ps14g switch, people write, that the ps14d feels a little bit softer, in between 14g and sw68, so I ordered two Seimitsu PS-15 buttons, should have ordered two switches insteadt and put them in my sanwas, you never stop learning
