for any player or a certain player?
any character
interesting…
Roll cancel. That sounds like it will involve feint cancels. If so, then yes, this applies to more or less every character. Quite useful indeed during gameplay… and not just for showy comboes. Not sure if this is what you mean since I’ve never really delved into 02 (er… at least I think 02 has roll cancels)
You are right its has to do with the faints and right again its not only for fancy combos I actually came up with it to help me with my super combos and mind games
SHIT my time is over see you guys later
me thinking i have an idea of what your tactics are… one of me buddies have done the same thing to me before… i’ll think of a counter game…
not sure if i can make it this weekend, gonna be pretty busy as usual… peace out!
Hmmmm… what could it be?
Off hand, I’m think’n it has to do w/ Feint Cancel tactics. Tis some pretty advanced stuff. Unfortunately, itz kind of hard for me to do cuz of my usual controller and config. EXCELLENT stuff tho!
For those who don’t know, feint cancel’n seems to be quite unique and VERY important in Garou (esp for more advanced play and tactics). Crap, I know this and yet I don’t really employ it. :lame:
Here are just some of the benefits that can be gained from the feint cancels (feints are fake moves, ex: a fake fireball motion; we say feint CANCEL because most likely you will cancel into the feint from a regular move to pull off these tactics)
- allows you to bait opponents
- allows for more extensive chains
- allows for additional buffering of moves
- allows for quicker recoveries
- insane mix ups and tricks become available
Quick recovery REALLY starts to intensify the play. Imagine this scenerio:
You are Rock, against Tizoc.
You just did a HP into a feint.
You can now short jump and attack Tizoc while hez STILL in block stun.
And now you can pretty much repeat a pattern.
This play will definitely start to put your opponent in guard crush danger.
Of course there are many other things you can do once you go into a feint cancel. Because you can do whatever you want during any frame of the feint, this will allow for sick mix ups and tricks.
Did I let the cat out of the bag? Of course not, this is the type of stuff you should see and discuss at the casuals. So stop on by. You can only gain.
Keep play’n. Peace
Just dropping a note for those who didn’t know, we’ve got most of the character’s frame data completed (I think 4 more characters to go?) and found out a couple of things that you may not know (ok, you may know, but I didnt) about the fighting system. Lots of notes up over at fierceslash.com in the garou forum.
what’s a frame data???
GG’s today Answer & Magician 
Well I’m working on using the feint for combos and mind games.
here it is:
First this is what it is I called feint buffering example
Using TERRY imput a comand like qcb+ac a your character will do a feint, well now after your character is done doing the feint just press a punch he will know do a burning knuckle with out you having to imput another qcb+a or c. Easy stuff right the main use for it is for mind games, you dont have to follow with the move you are feinting, example feint a burning knuckle into a power wave. Ha thats the trick
Well this is what I mainly use it for but is more complicated
I use JENET so this is what I basically do
standing C into qcf+ac, into qcf+a or c. Basically standing C into super right? Why do it this way then? OK somehow the imput time for the feint is faster then the imput for the super. Also the feint can be cancelled as soon as the first frame so basically you wont be able to see the feint unless you pay really close attention. Remember this has to be performed fast like roll canceling
MAGICIAN I did this exact same thing once today when you came over to my house today to see if you could tell, I notice you made a weird exprecision like there was something weird but you couldnt tell so you didnt say anything, it was the only time I connected the standing C into the many torpedos super.
This works with most of the characters I try it with exept TIZOC he is just weird. Remember is still a working progress so I dont know what are the restrictions or everything is usefull for so please dont come and ask me “how come it does work with this move and not with this one” or “can I buffer this into this” because I DON’T KNOW remember I’ve only play this game for a month so I’m already ahead of my self, and I only play a few characters.
Shit too much information my brain is overloading, HOOOOOO this game is taking over my mind NOOOOOOOOOOO GET OUT, GET OUT, SOMEBODY HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE…
:wasted: MUST PLAY GAROU, :wasted: MUST PLAY GAROU, :wasted: MUST PLAY GAROU, :wasted: MUST PLAY GAROU,
sparks + garou = 24 hours of gameplay 
9/25 Garou Casual is CANCELLED!
JUST IN - Masataka left me a message this morn, but I didn’t get it till the middle of the day cuz I was in class (yeah, sat classes suck). THIS casual, for 9/25 has been CANCELLED! We do not know of a reschedule’n time just yet, I will have to talk w/ Masataka later on to see whatz up.
Just so that yalls know, Masataka had to hit up a funeral. In the mean time, for those of you who already know me, we MIGHT be able to arrange someth’n later on in the day. If you are interested but can’t get in contact w/ me immediately, just pm me and hopefully I’ll be able to get to you in time. I apologize for the inconvenience. Sorry guys, I was as blindsided by this as the rest of you.
MAYBE we’ll meet up next w.e. at: SoCal get-together II: In tEh Hood. (posted on neo-geo.c). Just keep your eyes and ears open.
Keep Play’n. Peace
Hey, is it possible in the future that you guys could record some match videos from your casuals? It’s really hard to find vids of MOTW on the net… it’d be cool if you could make some.
^^^^ Seconded. Would love to get some footage of any kind. Combo vids for garou can be found easily, but matches are near impossible to find.
(Damnit, we should have recorded some of the ones at evo. There was almost always 1-3 games of garou going at any time in the console room.)
Wow, itz really nice to see that people are start’n to get so interested in Garou and the Suth’n Cali scene (tho admittedly itz QUITE small, but eh… you gotta start somewhere). I still don’t know when the next casual will be at the mome, but I’ll see what I can do for you guys.
I’ve never made any sort of vid before, so I hope it’s not that hard and requires any sort of crazy equipment. Another thing is, I think I would need a place to host the vid once it’s done right? If anyone has suggestions, just let me know.
In the mean time, herez a decent place (link below) to keep up on the SNK scene and get LOTS of nice vids. Keep in mind that for a lot of the Garou vids, the combos may NOT be legit due to:
1)“emu-madness” (mean’n it can only be done on certain emulator versions of the game)
2) the counter setting is in place
Still this should give you some nice ideas:
***.planetdreamcast.com/orochinagi/cyberfan/main.htm
Keep Play’n! Peace
I can host the vids over at s-c.com if you ever get any.
The combo vids are a lot of BS, and I’ve been telling everyone that since I’ve seen the ones at KoFCyberfan. Some of the combo’s are doable, but most rely on countering the opponent or a BS rom.
I wouldn’t mind holding a Garou casual at my place, but the fact that I live in Lancaster and with my family will make it kinda hard, they won’t mind people coming over, but Oranage County is about 2h-2h30min drive. I can hold about 6-10 people in my room, I have 2 tv tv in my room, but 1 is a bitch to get working.
Hopefully I can make it down there for one of the next few meets, I really, really need to fight some people again, last time I played against someone was at E3. 
All I have is a digital camera, so I can only record like up to 3 minutes at a time, but I will if you guys want it…
Master Giby, I’m down for a road trip as long as everyone else is too, but I’m stuck house sitting for the next two weekends… so sometime after that would be cool…
There WERE match vids taken during the unofficial EVO tourney for Garou. But, they mysteriously disappeared from my understanding. I’m assuming those never turned up, right?
Well actually with TIZOC I am pretty sure feint canceling works pretty well. It’s pretty easy to do a blocked A and then feint cancel into a 360 or 720. If you do it right It sort of allows you to do tick throws, because they come out of hit stun during the feint and the feint allows you to easy buffer a 360 or 720.
I have also hear that some people use fient cancels for hit-checking purposes. I have never seen any japanese tourney vids but I have never heard of many people actually using feint cancel combos in a match. (by this I mean stuff like some of the crazy long strings they do in Last Prophecy video