The name of this thread should really have been,
What does Sakurai really think of HARDCORE smash players?
And we all know the answer to that question.
PS: Smash is an action game if you ask me.
competitive party games
It’s pretty well documented that SRK likes smash. We just hate the scene for…obvious reasons.
to you hardcore smash players (items off etc. lol):
I say…
fuck this thread… (if you don’t know how sakurai feels by now…then “smash” shouldn’t even come out of your mouth"
fuck the SSBB/Smash section on srk… (section is dead, nobody cares…unless u want to play that “all brawl” garbage. the only reason why it’s there, is so the rest of srk can’t be bothered by smash talk)
and fuck srk’s opinion on smash… (97% srk don’t even play the game competitively or participate in tournaments. instead they talk about “how easy” the game is…when they can’t even beat good players or win tournaments that matter. stay free)
they don’t take the game seriously, hell they don’t even consider it a fighting game.
stop wasting your time and everyone else’s time talking about smash on this site. if you’re not running a tournament for smash n trying to help enhance its’ community with the support of srk (cuz we all know that’s too much to ask lol)…then you should have nothing to say.
simple.
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someone make a thread about that sailor moon fighter on snes. :tup:
This is exactly what the fuck i’m talking about. People don’t hate your fucking game, they hate your GODAMN COMMUNITY! You know why? Posts like this.
.1 I though you guys don’t care whether it is a fighting game or not, and yet you guys still continue to bring it up.
.2 We can’t beat tournament playerrz? OMG. Can you beat a tournamet player in SF.
.3 I thought a lot of people already admitted that melee was deep? Brawl was made to counter that depth
.4 When people talk of smash on this site, smashers come in the thread and stirr up some trouble. Do we go to SWF at the mention of street fighter to preach it to you guys?
Like i said, SRK doesn’t like a lot of games, they at least repect thier scenes and thier communitys. They make small jokes here and there, but its all good. You are the only community who has a seriousy bad rep because it has idiots that feel the need to preach about how we don’t know the game (do you know street fighter?) or about how we don’t respect your scene (THIS IS WHY)
Just let SRK talk. damn. I’ve noticed that there is not ONE thread that mentions smash in the FGD without SWF members coming here to preach some dumb shit.
SRK needs that Thank Post button.
Yeah, that’s why first-week sales are so unimportant. Oh wait.
But seriously, you’re talking about an industry in which God of War and Fallout 3 are considered golden standards. The fact is that most people have terrible taste in most things. But you’re just going to keep arguing that circular logic, so I don’t know why I am taking the time to write this. Cheese is a delicious snack.
Don’t take it personally, smash players. We always hate on the current mediocre popular game.
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I’m curious, what do you consider depth then? I’m pretty sure that any definition supports the fact that Melee is a deep game.
depth comes on how the game allows diferent type of strategies with meaningful options based on the mechanics that the game offers to the player, the dificult of the inputs, or other stuff doesnt have anything to do with depth, this is why chees is always mentioned as a game with a lot of depth without being dificult to get in because the execution barrier.
the depth on GG, MVC2 doesnt come on the dificult to get in to them, or having hard stuff to do, it comes from the strategy layers that you can access with the diferent mechanics that the games offer to the players, and how the knowledge of these diferent aspects of the games are truly important at high level, not every game that demands technical knowledge about it is a game with depth.
an example of games that became less depth as you acces to the dificult stuff are there too, like HNK, and believe me when i say that i love that game, but truth be told the game becames more braindead when you acces more dificult levels of play at least for some character because the strategies become less important with the stupid shit that you learn, the same can be said of F/UC, a fun game, that at high level play it lost its depth and some said its fun, lol
now, dont be like the others shitheads, and misunderstand, im not saying that smash is not technical or a game without depth, that doesnt anything to do with me firmly blieving that the game is not a fighting game
Honesty. There seems to be an abundance of SWF members (Those that don’t support the community at all) that think that the depth from melee comes from the execution barrier. The depth comes from how it is used in high level play.
Would the game be anymore deep if wavedashing was a one-framer?
Would it be any deeper if combos required one-frame links?
Would it be any deeper if edge hogging was a half-frame link?
I KNOW that every single smasher knows that not a word of that is true.
Tip Brag about the game, not about how much of a chore it is play it.
I like how you are constantly insisting that it’s okay for one community (SRK) to BELITTLE AND DISRESPECT another. and the smash community is supposed to just deal with it.
that’s real classy.
I personally don’t give a fuck. cuz I’ve been apart of this community (SRK) for over 7 years…so I’m used to how lame and arrogant it IS!!! it’s funny to me actually.
I shouldn’t even give you the time of day, but i suppose. let me address your points:
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meh. why deny the truth?
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well IL must really suck at super. cuz I’ve seen Brawl players beat long term SRK reps. I have Brawl players at my tournaments play in BBCS tournies and do pretty well.
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then if that’s the case, then why does 97% of SRK recommend the game NOT to be taken seriously, deemed a childish party game, a joke…etc. etc.? CONTRADICTION?
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smash players don’t bash other fighting game scenes. NOT EVEN TO THE EXTREME OF SRK AND THEIR BASHING. MWC 2010 I’ve witnessed the most disrespectful thing ever. Smash players being CHEERED out of the building cause their tournament couldn’t be ran and keits getting on the mic thanking them for “wasting everyone’s time” (sarcastically). Smash players who NEVER disrespected Keits and gave going to MWC a shoot regardless of the bad rep it was given for Smash tournament.
real classy right?
What irratates me is when people talk what they don’t know or haven’t experienced for themselves. but yet people like you swear up and down…that it’s “all good” , “roll with the flow” , or whatever other bullshit u said or hinted towards in your post. like smash players don’t have the right to express their opinion especially after the constant disrespect.
that’s funny.
so my previous post stands quite firmly.
Smash fucked up MWC 2010 for themselves, well one person really, but the way people acted at MWC on both sides was foolish. And once again, nice going showing why no one likes Smashers.
the truth is the truth. i’m not concerned about if smash is liked amongst the folks here. i fought that battle long time ago.
i’m all about keepin it real.
Then if you’re going to bring up MWC tell the whole truth then, like ya know the part about how one Smasher fucked it all up because he felt Keits wasn’t respecting him enough, and he fucked up the whole thing. And Keits had every right to be pissed due to all the work he put in.
smash from its inception was designed as a party game, a game mean to be played with 4 players, all the items, on all the stages
striping down all the elemnts of the game to turn it in to a fighter doesnt make the game a fighter
as i said before, i can use the options that mw2 gives me to make it work similar to a fighter, that doesnt make mw2 a fighter
wait what are u talking about? there was none of that. there was an issue long before MWC was even held, where the person who was supposed to run the smash tournament (Plankk from GPX…who dissed GPX as well) bailed on him. Then I took over and ran that portion of the tournament along with GPX.
tournament thread here:
Brawl & Melee THE NEW Midwest Championships 2010 - Chicago, IL - May 8-9 - Smash World Forums
there wasn’t a SINGLE smash player present at that tournament who disrespected keits whatsoever or pissed him off. cause keits did NOT have to deal with the players directly…I did.
none of those smash players at the tournament (even though there wasn’t many) deserved that level of disrespect (from SRK memebers)…period.
:lol:
are you aware of other fighting games/communities that strip down their games to make them more competitive?
prime example would be both naruto (GNT/Rev series and NA series) communities.
i mean even without the smash stripping, there’s still elements in smash games that are in traditional fighting games.
is guilty gear isuka a fighting game? it’s four players with gimmicks.
and besides i thought traditional “party” games are turned based anyways? is that not true?
man as much as i’d like to not care, it’s hard to NOT RESPOND to some things
stay free smasher stay free