That community (brawl+/-) is a GODSEND!!!
Sakurai is a fucking douchebag moron.
I love how the clueless STILL call wavedashing a glitch. LMFAO.
SRK we da best.
Yeah. You can remove it, but that takes a lot of presses on a tiny delete key. Too much effort lol.
EDIT: just discovered you can turn it off.
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didn’t read topic, response to sakurai:
which is so stupid, because i played that game once in a while for years and never had any clue it could be played competitively. he just saw the scene, didn’t understand that it wasn’t excluding casual players (instead it was an extension of the game’s life by hardcore players), and made a dumb decision.
i could go more into detail on why he was so wrong but its smash rofl and i’m not 15 anymore so even discussing it is the lamest shit ever.
Yes. Sakurai does. Smash is the best selling fighting game and stomps the competition in that regard.
Apparently not, considering he went out of his way to dumb down and butcher brawl to the point that competitive matches are generally boring and campy. He also managed to piss off the majority of competitive players as well.
I can’t play melee for nothing, but I can tell the difference in depth between the two. It’s close to making sf5 but making it just like sf1.
I’m sorry, my post was this
Yes. Sakurai does. Smash is the best selling fighting game and stomps the competition in that regard.
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the weird part about this thread is that it made me realize that all my favorite games are really deep and interesting on accident
And apparently you can’t read.
3rd grade or higher to engage in discussions here, thanks.
Let me extrapolate on my previous post. You stated that sakurai knows how to develop a good fighting game. He may have won with melee, but he failed at making a good one with brawl. He sold a lot with brawl, sure, but the initial sales were based solely on the hype melee produced, the rest were buy moms and competitive players who relented when the money moved. That’s it. Period. Saying he knows how to develop a great fighting game when he got one right and trashed the follow up is asinine.
fixed you silly boy, also the game sells only cuz has nintendo chars and the nintendrons buy anything that nintendo throws with their chars, it doesnt matter if smash is a deep game or not, or you really believe that the numbers of copies that the series had sold has anything to do with if is or is not a fighting game or if it is deep or not, the “competitive” smashers arent near the 1 percent of the people whou bought the game, for the rest of them smash is a party game to play with items and have fun, they give a fuck if smash is a fighting game or not, or if is a deep game, dont fool yourself
oh no he didn’t. :razz:
but seriously, i mean 9 times outa 10…we kinda KNOW how sakurai feels about the game. those who are “hardcore” smash players/educated in the scene thinks he’s a silly silly man.
those who hate the game/aren’t as knowledged in the scene are pretty much “meh” on the situation.
so what’s the end result of what we’re lookin for in this thread? i mean are u guys trying to encourage people to play smash? competitively? is SRK “trying to see the light” of smash games or its’ scene? 80% of you on here don’t even acknowledge the game as a fighting game. so why topic in the “fighting game discussion”?
Fighting games fans are the only ones dumb enough to try and argue a game’s genre. Genre is a category. In racing games, you race. In shooting games, you shot. In fighting games, you fight. Guess what you do in Smash Bros? You fight. No argument. Best selling fighting game. Get over it.
Games sell because they are good. The reason Smash Brothers has stomped every other fighting game out there is because people like it more. I could go into pages about how fighting games have failed to keep players, but it boils down to the fact that most fighting games are hard to learn and require far to much. To make an example, take Street Fighter. In Street Fighter 2, motions were very simple and you didn’t need special moves as much. You could just use one of the many punches and kicks. The special moves were like a bonus, and they were strong because of it. Now, look at Street Fighter 4. Specials are not required and they added Ultras, also needed. A special in SF is a motion and one button. Ultras are two of the same motion in rapid succession and three buttons. Ask any Smash fan why they don’t like normal fighting games and they will quickly mention motions.
Fighting games have become a niche because they have pushed people away by embracing an expensive and dead control rather than what Smash did and embraced the control everyone owns.
Lastly, people buy quality games. Too often people try to ignore this or rationalize it away, but consider that you, in your daily life, buy thinks you want. You don’t buy thinks you hate right? Same for everyone else.
The audience is always, always, always right. You can point to the accessible parking lot, to the time of the showing, to the weather of the sky, but none of that matters. The audience is always right.
First, in Japan, Melee’s sales were the worst of the three. Brawl is the best selling game in Japan. So there was no “riding the wave.” People left Smash Brothers with Melee. Brawl brought them back. Not to mention that Brawl outsold Melee by 2 million and sold throughout 2008 up until after Christmas. If it was a bad game, it would have not sold for as long. Not to mention people still play it A LOT
So no, Brawl is doing very well. I fail to see how he trashed it as the series has grow with every release. The truth is that people like you see here on Shoryken are a small minority of players. To most everyone, Brawl is by far an improvement. If you don’t believe me, go to any other message board and ask which one is better and Brawl will always win (those that say Melee will usually be tourney players).
Raise your hand if you expected it to devolve into this again, regardless of reasonable requests.
^ The moment I saw Sakurai and Smash Bros…we already knew what was going to happen.
Lmao, it always happens. Pure Smash players couldn’t even let SRK have it’s fun with the game, when Brawl first dropped we pretty much used items and random maps and guess what? The game was fun. But Smash players came in, said we were doing it wrong, and after a month or so of in-fighting the group dropped and now I really hate Smash (I don’t mind playing from time to time).
It’s not a fighting game, it’s a fun party game. Deal with it Smash community.
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That’s pretty much how I’m feeling right now. I felt the part of SRK that was having fun with the game was at least embracing the game for what it was whether it was a fighting game or not. The whole thing with the smash community and EVO left a bad taste in my mouth. It nearly killed any type of enjoyment I was having with the game.
This fucking guy.
I don’t care for Smash Boards or it’s members, but I hate when people go full retard and try to claim Smash Brothers is not a fighting game. Fighting game fans are the only ones who will resort to this level of stupidity. Let’s see what everyone else thinks Smash is.
Genre(s) Fighting (Wikipedia)
Software totals for Fighting games (VGChartz)
Summary Genre: Fighting(IGN)
Category: Fighting (“This action-packed fighting game”) (Nintendo.com)
Newegg Genre Fighting
The next-generation, online-enabled sequel to Nintendo’s light-hearted fighting series (1up)
Enjoy these parodies and tributes to Nintendo’s flagship fighting franchise! (Newgrounds)
Genre:Action > Fighting > 3D (GameFAQs)
Funny enough, I never found it being called a party game. So riddle me this, why are people saying it’s NOT a fighting game again? Maybe we can move on now.
It’s truly a status claim. This particular community simply wants to arbitrarily reject that status claim. There is no rational proposal for its’ exclusion, so you’re wasting your time asking for one.
May as well ask your dog the same question, it’ll probably provide more honest answers. If it cocks its’ head quizzically, it’s probably suggesting to you it doesn’t understand. That response alone would make its’ capacity for learning higher than those arguing otherwise in this thread.