"so GAMME is not happening! Now what?" tourney discussion thread

I had a little feeling that this was still going to happen… I hope it still does

So Kurasa, if Manny cannot make it to Orlando, that means you will be in charge of Running the tournament?

Hope Manny has it as easy as possible with his situation, best wishes to him

SO Kurasa!
WHy WAIT to tell us this. If you sat back read and watching why FUCKING wait until it got to this point. Makes no fucking sense man.
Manny having cancer sucks, but shit man does that give the right to keep folks out of the loop until a few weeks before the event???
Can’t you see this is all too shady on how it all began. Why would Manny himself come forth and say" hey guys I’m moving the venue due to MLG situation?"… Why not come out and say hey folks the truth why I’m moving the venue is because I’m in bad health right now blah blah blah.
I can’t understand what you folks don’t understand on why MANY are upset about this whole thing,

Now it’s going from MLG to Manny having Cancer. WTF!?
Guess what I saw an Skunkape too. If you’re from Fl you’ll know what I mean.

Ni disrespect to Manny having Cancer as I’m sure most of us know someone who has died or suffered from it, but shit does that give YOU the right to act like WE are the one’s in the wrong??

I’m working that stuff out with him now. He is flying in to stl today so I’m going to try to meet up with him and get shit straight. He owes it to the comm. Just let me get at him before we sound for shelter

Bad idea waiting until NOW to say something IMO.
Okay Manny is sick…hope he recovers.
This has been going on for more than a week now…2 people from MLG have stated that there are fabrications in Manny’s allegations regarding GAMME. Why didn’t anyone else from GPX come to the defense immediately?

Gamers are gonna want to know WTF is going on ASAP because they put time and money aside to your event, and now there is drama shrouded all over it.

See what is happening because NO ONE from GPX is answering the response from MLG, and laying to rest the drama…until now.

@Ayje
I kept quiet because I hadn’t spoken to Manny, before today, for 2 weeks and i dont like posting speculation. I waited until I heard from him personally.

I also understand the angry mob mentality and posting anything that is not inline with the mob mentality automatically makes me a mark.

I understand that ur pissed, so am I. My coming out puts my rep on the line by association but something had to be said. I just couldn’t say it until I heard from the man personally.

U have every right to be pissed. I’m not taking that from u nor will I try. I’m just asking that we all chill and let him respond. He gave me his word that he will do so today. If he doesn’t, then I offer him no quarter.

“ABK: Yo man send me a PM I’ll send you my phone number man we can talk and try to make this happen. Let’s put it like this, whatever position Manny is in in his company I am in the same position in my company so MAYBE we can all work something out with but send me a PM and I will call you if you don’t mind and maybe all of us can make the best out of this situation for everyone.”

I just wanted to clarify this post I made in the other thread so there are no misunderstandings. I am a President in my company just like Manny is, however everything that I and LDA Inc. has said we are going to do we have done and people have been happy with our tournaments and events. We have not scammed anyone and we have paid out all promised money.

Just wanted to make sure everyone knows about that.

Thanks Kurasa.
I hope Manny does get in touch with you about this whole thing. I know I’m just a pea in the pod compared to others in this.
I hope you can figure this all out as you may now have to share his burden.
No Hate from me, just " PROFOUND SADNESS"

i believe in you kurasa, i know this shit will get straightened out in no time

lol this tournament smelled from the start. not surprised.

Not to jump on the bash “Manny” train or anything but, if he is able to fly with his said condition. Then why is he not able to type, from days ago when this all started. To put everyone’s mind at ease.

I made an account just to participate in this discussion, I can’t wait to see what “Manny” has to say about all of this.

@Maverick
Manny was on here on Friday and appealed for a few days since he was attending a funeral. This really all blew up last night.

@Comm
Manny is coming to my place tonight to discuss things he is on the plane right now

Okay he was on friday but, so was i and, i was on saturday and sunday. Just like manny use to be before all this happened. Thats wht i am like :“WHAT HAPPEN TO HIM” he use to be on all the time but, as soon as this got outted he’s no longer able to get on. Yes i understand that his sick and yes i understand that you can’t always get to a computer but, i dont believe you cant for 3 days knowing whats going on and, Make no mistake he knows what going on but, yet does not type to douse the fire just let it burn out of control (Sorry for the metaphor heard it last night) as easy as he called you and boarded the plain. It would of been just as easy to power on a computer or even from someone or his own cell phone and logged on.

Well guys I have read both threads (the one that is closed and this one). And this is a real shiity situation.

Anyone with common sense would “feel” for the community: on how they put so much money, time off, practice, and etc…for GAMME.

But then as a T.O, and knowing how it feels to have things go down the drain: it’s never easy to please everyone. And to make sure the things, that are out of your hands, go according to your wishes…can be seriously stressful too.

And the head T.O of this tourney (Manny) has cancer on top of that. That really fucking sucks, THAT REALLLY FUCKING SUCKS…if you ask me. :sad:

Before I continue, let just me say: I still don’t understand why GPX hasn’t commented on here about what’s going on. Clearly there should be more to GPX than just MANNY, amirite? :confused:

So to answer this thread’s question: “NOW WHAT?”

May is a real tough month to really make something happen. I mean it’s possible, but there are A TON of tournaments happening around the country this month. Simply because of SSF4 being released at the end of April. So many weekends are booked and hella shit is happening. I know Gamme is in the beginig of June…but my point is, DO WE REALLY have enough time to successfully plan something to replace it?

As of right now, A LOT of people may be canceling on Gamme trying to get whatever money back possible. And more n likely, they’ll be using that money for other reasons. Maybe to decide to go to MWC, PowerUp 2010, EVO, or bills, or whatever.

And, as mentioned before, on top of all of this…NO ONE ACTUALLY CANCELED GAMME IN THE FIRST PLACE!

I think the best thing to do is let whatever happens, happen. If Gamme is still go, then let it be. If people want to cancel on Gamme and use their money for whatever else (which is the most probable outcome), let them. And if you guys want to try to do a replacement tournament…then, although I am leary of the success at this point (no offense), go for it.

I know my name (digimonemporer/devildigimon) has been thrown into the mix. And I appreciate people suggesting that I’d try to help out. But I’m going to politely withdrawl. Because I personally have a lot of things going on this month. And to be honest, I don’t believe we have enough time to do anything effective. Other than hope for Gamme’s success (which I’d leave up to the powers that be), or try our very best to refund everyone IN FULL, in case Gamme is CANCELED (again I’ll leave that up to the powers that be).

Let all in which has happened, be a great lesson to everyone. And to teach current T.Os (like myself) and future ones, NOT TO MAKE THESE SAME MISTAKES UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

  • Here’s to hoping for the best, FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY,

Webster.

I see your point and agree that he should’ve said something this weekend, but I don’t know what truly kept him from doing so. Nothing can be done about that now though.

Hopefully he is able to clear everything up.

If anyone has any questions for the guy, email me and I’ll show them to him later. I know that some people have things to ask but don’t want to get involved in this on the forums.

Kurasa at gmail dot com

Sorry AZ,

I prejudged you, I think you did the right thing. But by closing that thread there is no way for Manny to plead his case.

wow Manny has cancer? thats crazy

ive seen Manny work in person and he doesnt seem like the type of person to just blow a WHOLE community off just like that, im sure he has his reasons for not saying anything cuz knowing the community anything he says he’ll immediately get jumped on about so he’ll have to think hard about what to say… people should at least wait a week before crying about anything, as far as everyone knows this is still going on so assumptions arent really helping anything… remember its not just the players who are coming out to this, there’s supposed to be like voice actors or something coming out too so everyone should take a step back and give Manny some breathing room to gather his thoughts (put yourselves in his position, you dont just get out of bed and immediately go looking for a computer when your own life is in danger, Do you?)

I think most of us have seen Manny working at tournaments, conventions, or whatever, and we know he works hard, which is why, in spite of some questionable things (like, among other things, where the money comes from for those enormous pot bonuses) the scene, many of us gave him the benefit of the doubt. Recent events have just shone extra light on how questionable so much of this was in the first place, and the lack of response from Manny (not to mention the lack of content in the responses he HAS made) does not help.

i think alot of this would be easily solved if someone who knew this manny guy would talk to him and get a response.

I know people in florida who know him personally, and the amount of confusion is mind boggling. This event is way too huge for it to be “cancelled.”

I’m doing some investigating of my own and confirming with people that are supposed to be coming (musical guests and the like) if they are aware of whats going on and whether or not they’re actually booked with anything. If you guys have contacts with any of the guests, I’d suggest you call around and find out whats going on as well.

The validity of this even will be confirmed with the simple act of researching as much about the guests and venue as you can.

Ok, my close friend Bill (DM ashura) is performing on the saturday of the event along with a bunch of other musical guests. He called Javier, who works with GPX and is Manny’s right hand man from what Bill understands. As of yesterday night, he is still scheduled to come and perform, with confirmation from Javier.

Also, I should remind everyone that toybox, a band from arizona (japanese dudes) are also scheduled and are still coming to play on that saturday as well ( here is their video: [media=youtube]nvPqzwCxABk&feature=player_embedded[/media] ). I don’t know them personally, but they seem to be coming.

The events are still going to go on, with the support of the people on this board or not, it seems.

I’ll post more as I find out about it.