Also a possible option.
Sounds like her mother was happy they were there.
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Discord has been shutting down servers from alt right groups from their service. Reddit has been getting in on it too.
[/quote]This is absolute goddamn bullshit. Fucking smug bastards. āIf you wanna talk about sonic the hedgehog thatās fine but leave the racism etc elsewhereā who the fuck are these people to tell other people what to do?
Man, I would want to slap the shit out of both of these idiots. You censor some fuckwit KKKās rights and the next persons rights to be violated WILL be yours. The KKK and nazis in general have less power when you let them openly discuss their viewpoints BECAUSE you can fucking trash their stupid beliefsā¦ in public. Force these motherfuckers to go underground and they just start to echo chamber and build a goddamn army under everyoneās noses like their name is lord sauron.
The fuck. Fuck this shit, all these tech companies need to have a clause that allows free speech on platforms that are about speechā¦ which discord/FB/twitter all are.
I would personally argue, in my lawyering way, that since free speech is only protected against governmental restrictions, that services like discord/etc are considered āgovernmentsā since they govern the public that uses their servers services.
I mean a government is nothing but a group of people that have an amount of elected power, these fucking companies arenāt even elected.
But in the end I guess since this is a capitalist country itās just up to some forward thinking people to put up services that compete directly with these established internet companies and make them feel the sting of increasingly cash deprived wallet.
TYT sucks. Stop fucking linking it already.
This is a fail on the other end. This Australian politician wore a burqa to parliament to protestā¦religious garb? No, just Islamic ones.
Pauline Hansen is a fucking clown, though. So no one, except Wasted, will take her seriously.
Would have loved to see her go up there with a yarmulke or a Catholic cross and see how she wouldāve been thought of.
Can someone explain to me why people are crying over these statues being removed? Itās fucking shocking imo.
First, they were traitors to the Union. No matter how you try to whitewash the past, it was pretty clear by the words of the Confederate generals themselves that this was about slavery, not about state independence. I actually linked several of the Confederate leadersā speeches and op-eds in newspapers where they actually declare that slavery was the root cause of secession, but that got little to no attention in the last thread.
Even if it were independence, fuck that. GOP obviously doesnāt care about statesā rights so much as it cares about pushing their own agenda. You can see that right now with these sanctuary cities. By GOP definition, the states should be able to decide what happens with illegal immigrants. However, thatās not the case. Trump threatened to withhold funding and yesterday Sessions threatened the same. So thatās not really a believable reason.
Second, the Confederates lost. Only in America do we put up statues for the losers of a war. To idolize the losers of the war has always been a disgrace and baffling. They ripped the country literally in half and were then put on a pedestal for it. What? I donāt see people putting up shit for Mussolini, Ghaddafi, Hussein, Pol Pot, etc. So why are we doing it? Sounds really bizarre.
Third, the whole āto rememberā schtick doesnāt hold water. Do books not exist? Do we need a statue to remember the atrocities caused by that bullshit rebellion?
And last, thereās no southern pride about the Confederates. What they did was shameful. If the liberal states left the union now, after the 2016 election results, all you Reds would be saying the same thing. The only difference being is that right now we have no morally repugnant practice we are trying to keep.
And I know a lot of you are going to buck at that last post just because of who I am and what politics I (now) practice, fine. Itās a shame that you cannot understand the fundamental issue with why the Confederacy should not be celebrated. Still I have hope that one day youāll have a eureka moment and realize why itās such a thorny issue.
For now, I just leave you with this article which I hope can at least help you understand:
So a video game service needs to let hate groups use their service because of reasons ?
1st amendment protections dont apply to privaye insitutions. For example, i can ban half of you and the govt cant do shit about it
This free speech shit is getting silly.
Itās been silly for years because people either donāt understand what the First Amendment actually does or believe it should protect them no matter the situation.
These are the same people who will come to your house and when you ask them not to bring a firearm inside they scream, āI HAVE MY RIGHTS!ā
Fucking idiots.
I agree. Please do not link anything from The Young Turks. Every single one of them are idiots who have no education in journalism. They are pretty much the typical person you see on facebook commenting on a news post, the only difference is they are able to put it on a nice quality youtube video and actually convince themselves that they have good political views. I think they should be taken off all forms of media and just stick to the typical day jobs because i find their stupid views dangerous. For example, they made this huge rant on the Washington Redskins keeping their name yet on the other hand this retard talk of a channel she leads is named after a genocidal regime.
Although: Anna Kasaparin, that fat brown guy, and the white dude with a shit beard are examples of shit head SJWās to the highest order. Whenever they end up getting logically destroyed in debates they resort to cheap shot insults because they canāt hack the fact that they are being schooled. Fuck them and i hope they go bankrupt.
You can take down the statues and confederate battle flags all you want, states can still have tricks up their sleeves.
Take the state I live in, for example.
Confederate National Flag:
Georgia State Flag:
We were gonna have the last word on that no matter what.
The next step is to stop perpetuating the bullshit of the Confederates fighting for independence.
ALL of the evidence proves that to be nonsense. The war was because they did not want the freeing of slaves to dismantle their economy.
I donāt agree with the idea of destroying these statues since I passionately value art and history, but the Confederacy cannot be treated as a positive thing that happened in the southern states. They were traitors to the Union, and they were comparable to Neanderthals for what they fought for.
Put these statues in museums so that generations in the future will understand that the Confederacy is a thing of the past and nothing good ever came from them.
You just described Trump.
tyt are sjws?
i thought they were garden variety liberals.
Anything which allows a public to speak should probably be up for consideration for how free speech applies to said service. Iām not saying that they should or should not, Iām mostly saying that their should be discourse about these new ways to access speech and what they have a right and responsibility to uphold and not uphold.
If the Supreme Court as an example says that these types of services are not at all subject to uphold free speech because of being private corporations and companies, then so be it, and then that can in turn be used as an example of how things are going to further proceed down the line.
As it is now though, yes, it does seem like something that at least requires a further look into.
And no, that is not unprecedented. When new technology is invented, new laws are invented with them in mind to police said technologies and allow restrictions or lack therof. And when not enough laws have been instituted, more laws get instituted.
As far as what free speech is, in laymens terms as I know it:
āThe right to say what you want without governmental restriction or prosecution as long as said speech does not violate the specific rights of others with regard to safetyā
Free speech doesnāt protect against penalties with regards to the consequences of your speech, it simply regards your right to say it where the government is concerned.
This ALSO means that it is in fact illegal to take someoneās freedom of speech away from them. You can say what you want, you canāt however stop people from saying what they want save for specific exceptions like NDAās and gag orders and workplace rulesā¦ within certain limits.
Iām all for racists having freedom of speech because their freedom of speech protects mine. Iām against taking away racists freedom of speech because taking away their freedom of speech means eventually taking mine away, and I more highly regard my speech than that of the racistsā¦ so itās a big loss for me since I put no value into what racists say, and since what they say has no value to me, the net result of the loss of free speech is a huge loss since I gained basically nothing in the bargain, yet lost everything.
Also @Pertho
I would argue that these institutions you are describing arenāt at all āprivateā anyone can get an account to these places. Itās like saying a grocery store is private. Privately owned yes, but a service to the public. Itās just a grey area that has alway been there but is now exacerbated by the fact that public discourse now occurs via privately owned means, whereas when the first amendment was instituted there was no internet. There was word of mouth and the newspapers and almanacs.
You gonna sue SRK because I closed the political threads?
Thatās why your argument is retarded.
Someone is really grasping this morning.
If I cared and were a high powered lawyer and had the time? Maybe. Luckily for srk Iām none of those things.
Also srk doesnāt have an average user count in the millionsā¦ thatās why YOUR argument is retarded.
you wanna make a thread about racist people being dumb. go for it.
Call it the Idiot Racists thread. have fun.
Uhhhhh. Can we not? Iām not sure how many terrible threads are useful. Maybe make a Florida Man thread first? :\