Dr. Janet Albrechsten calls modern day feminists “grievance warriors,” and states that “feminism has been corrupted by deep sense of anti western self loathing.”
or anti-immigrant groups like FAIR convincing these gullible, rural municipalities to enact anti-immigrant legislation which get bogged down in long, expensive litigation and getting a come up from those huge billable hours from taxpayer dollars. so, while these people are cheering. they are getting their pockets picked clean. lol.
it’s been going on in varying degrees and outcomes since municipalities have started to remove confederate monuments. it’s a thing now just like the Lost Cause of the Confederacy is still a thing.
It really is due to lack of education and ignorance. It’s probably safe to say that a majority of rural, white communities in the Midwest and South don’t interact with minorities very much, much less even interacted with one at all. Then you get figureheads preaching that America is under attack by immigrants/minorities or some other type of ignorant shit and since they don’t know any better, it’s like gospel to them. Same type of shit for Alex Jones and people of his ilk. But nah, clearly this is all backlash to SJWs.
I think not interacting with people different from you is the major force that is driving all this. Coastal/urban liberals can be really insular, even among other left leaning types. I’ve seen (lefty) people on my facebook actually publicly commit themselves to less discussion and less exposure to people of opposing viewpoints, which is so absurd I wouldn’t believe it if I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes. Advocating unprovoked violence has been a popular meme for months among many far left activists.
The right do the same shit. There’s just as many right echo chambers as there are left. If people want to bring up “The left started it!” (whether it’s true or not), then we’ve reached grade school level finger pointing.
More experience than confidence. It’s like knowing someone is trying to sell you something 2 seconds into their first sentence.
Also I checked the video title and looked at his other videos, and he looked to be “bullshit hot takes guy”.
But to be honest, I’m not really in a watching-videos-about-Charlottesville kind of mood right now, I’ll watch the video later if you insist.
edit: since I haven’t been checking this thread, (because I hate it)
This is the third one just in Charlottesville. There was one last month, another in May (link). There are KKK rallies that pop up hereand there, as well as “anti-sharia rallies” (wink wink) by groups with dubious histories. Then you’ve got your dipshit alt-right rallies, and your militia guys or roaming skinheads who may show up to any of these. And more famously you’ve got your alt-right/WP conference after Trump’s election win (“Hail Trump” etc), and other such conferences less open to the public.
My point being, these things aren’t hard to come by if you keep an eye out. I can’t say how much they’ve increased in the last year or so, but it seems to be on the uptick.
This is a false premise. Very often these people go out of their way to lie about what their ideas are, because plausible deniability is part of the game (“everyone is just trying to label me a racist! wahh wahh PC culture, waah wahh SJWs”). Obvious White Supremacist Dick Spencer is Obvious White Supremacist now, but he would very often claim he was being “ironic” by doing Hitler salutes and making antisemitic comments. There’s a lot of “I’m not racist”-guys who are constantly doing racist things, including showing up at the Charlottesville rally.
The other problem is, as I cited, that none of this is new. At best, the level of denial is somewhat new; you can easily find people who are clearly racist but don’t seem to know it, because they don’t process racism as a real thing, only as an insult. But even that, I suspect, is fairly mundane. We’ve already had this argument many times (ie. America, the world). It’s the equivalent of someone posting a thread about the same topic over and over.
Also, not everyone is interested in “discussing” it. You’re asking a lot of someone to have to explain that racism is bad to someone who should obviously know better, or to have a civil conversation with an idiot web-racist who thinks they know more than they actually do. Take it over to /r/changemyview or some other space where the other "hey, I’m-just-asking-questions" racists can find people who feel like addressing them. And on the other end, there are a bunch of people with shitty views who are convinced that people who disagree with them all know less instead of more, and are only interested in circle jerks and echo chambers (see: this thread).
Was wrong about this one, antifas were there. As far as I know they didn’t play a major role, but people are using the fact that they were there as evidence that they were causing trouble. Which in the first place is unsubstantiated, and in the second place is a polite distraction from the fact that there were torch-weilding racists and neo-nazis running about. As though we’re meant to believe that the former are uniformly madmen and had outsized influence, whereas the latter group is just peacefully menacing people, but in a technically legal way.
hey, i don’t insist. you don’t have to watch it; i’m just showcasing examples on what i’ve been saying about these threads. one side tries to gather information from info given from different sources to come up with a more refined conclusion. the other side is “fuck you.”
you just threw a “fuck you” at me when i was just asking for info*. now, i’m a chill dude so i no-sell words because MUH 1ST AMENDMUNT- but if i was say pedoviejo (4 RedBulls deep), i’d throw a “fuck you” right back. TECHNICALLY that should be fair since you initiated it; but for some reason the retaliation gets treated like the initiation which receives the custodial attention and the warnings. that can be frustrating.
i guess telling a person “fuck you” until they get aggro and get themselves banned is a viable debating tactic, but it seems smarmy.
*i’m serious, y’all. i was at work from 9am to 10pm the day that happened. i didn’t know ANYTHING. at first i thought an Antifa person ran a car into the crowd. that would make sense because people were saying it was a “white supremacy rally” and Antifa are more objectively more violent.
Tbh the trouble with SJWs is they take everything too far and ram it down you throat.
This time 3 years ago I was minding my own business considering myself a left wing nerd/gamer.
Then gamergate happened and at the start I had no dog in the fight but then “Gamers are dead”, “Gamers don’t havr to be your audience”.
Calls for censorship of the shit I enjoy everywhere, changes to games being demanded because they are “Too hetoronormative” or because of “Objectification and male power fantasys”
I turn to mtg and its all “They’re not man lands anymore but creature lands”, I turn to fucking anime and I got SJWs completely rewriting lines to push agenders.
I don’t want to be involved in this politics bullshit, in these fucking go-nowhere slanging matches but these fuckers keep coming after the things I love and trying to corrupt them, do you expect me and others like me to just lie down and take it?
My only experience of these fuckers is them trying to corrupt and change the things I care about and now I’m meant to not hate them because the hate the far right too?
No they are all wankers, the enemy of an enemy is not a fucking friend.
there’s definitely a few different threads going on within the sjw/antifa vs various nationalist groups thing
I’m actually seeing leftists (specifically leninists) attack the very concept of free speech. it doesn’t seem they want it anymore because it gives a platform to nazis, or so they say. At the same time, if it wasn’t for free speech, the whole left wouldn’t be allowed to say anything in this country. free speech is the only reason we have a resurgence of leninism in the usa (which i find terrifying btw. The whole soviet story is tragic aside from rapid industrialization, but we’re already industrialized)
I think the alt right that dont consider themselves nazis need to step up and disown the actions in Virginia. they need to do it quickly too. you can’t align with nazis and expect anything good.
with the violence rising, a lot of people are going to get hurt, and unfortunately its going to be mostly leftists because most of them don’t know how to fight or use a weapon. many right wingers have extensive military backgrounds. all in all, i think things are progressing really badly and I don’t like the radicalization of these traditionally fringe movements.