Paragraphs son… use em.
:rolleyes:
This entire thread has turned into people arguing about what Sirlin did or didn’t say. “3S players” or “3S purists,” what’s the difference really? Either term is referring to the 3s community, which is composed primarily of purists.
I’d really love nothing more than for SIrlin to pop in and clarify things. I don’t see Sirlin as trying to look down on the 3S community. I do see you as doing so.
They’re responding NO, because the way the game has currently been balanced-- no it wouldn’t.
If you were going to rebalance 3s(and I REALLY don’t want to get into this argument because I have better shit to do with my time), one example of something that would need to happen is Chun Li would LOSE two stocks of SA2. That’s one of her biggest if not her biggest strength against everyone else in the game. But that’s something that make Chun Li FUN. Yun would have to be nerfed to the point where Genei Jin didn’t do so much ridiculous damage. But that’s something APPEALING about the way the metagame is right now, and has always been. It is NOT appealing to change those attributes because those are things about the game that are loved.
And lets say you want to buff everyone else up? Well okay-- you have to increase the health of EVERY CHARACTER IN THE GAME and keep the damage on those super’s the exact same(rhyme not intentional.) Or decrease the damage-- but that ruins the appeal of that in the first place. Of course you could just argue the damage is ridiculous and makes those matches completely unfair-- but that’s to you and me. It’s not to many 3s players out there. They have their own reasons for loving it.
you know, I’ve been agreeing with you in this thread, but I’m really shocked nobody’s called out the fact that your avatar is from Yomi.
I don’t even see why this argument is relevant; if you don’t think of video games as toys then you don’t but they are fundamentally that. People who do think of them as a toy probably wouldn’t take them any less seriously than you would in a competitive environment.
OH I apologize.** I didn’t realize that the rest of the article was completely moot and unnecessary, and that what you just quoted was the only thing I should have been paying attention to.** My apologies. I’ll be more selective in my attention.
Brokeny wtf kind of made up word is that.
Anywho as someone who doesn’t play 3s or read Sirlin’s post, so far it looks more like he is really mad at the reviewer more than anything over the 3s rating and chooses to take it out on the game. For those who say he didn’t take a shot at 3s community or players he does by using Floe as an example (true or not) which is really sad. People play what they love heck I’m waiting on a perfect A2 & A3 port but it might never happen.
Really this is just a pathetic attempt of him blasting an old game to up his own as well as what he thinks is best for a community he has the little to no involvement in.
Damn edits. The real reason you woulnd’t say that is because there’s negative connotations to the word ‘toy’ as something an adult shouldn’t be bothering with. They’d be deeply insulted, and you’d have to expect them to react that way.
Guess no one plays the game or were smart enough to not make an ad hominem. I assume the former.
That philosophy again I agree with-- but his article DID scapegoat people to do it. Again-- that’s my problem. It’s a bad example.
Wow I bet sirlin makes a great boyfriend/husband.
Generally when you love something you love what it is, not what you imagine it could possibly be.
Which wouldn’t be a problem if they had interpreted the article’s core points correctly. Which isn’t that hard to do, really.
I have no reason to look down on the 3S community.
Yeah maybe the thread title could have been better but Fivec has still been on the ball for like the majority of the thread. Naturally, though, nitpicking on a thread title would be the next straw grasped at. [S]Good thing you can’t parry throws.[/S] I like cheesecake.
So now that he has been thrown under the bus how about someone locks this thread right up I don’t see how this helps any of the 3s OG and new people interested in 3s. If anything it has kept them from playing the game more…
What you’re saying here is basically what FMJaguar said earlier in that saying “no,” to balance changes isn’t so much an embrace of imbalance as a vote of no confidence in the developers’ ability to make a better balanced game more fun. I think he used the term “good production,” but I don’t think I’m mischaracterizing his argument too badly.
I think that’s a valid counter-point. I would be interested to hear Sirlin’s response, but he’s not going to post here because he feels like anything he said would be shouted down.
Sorry man typing while shitting is hard as hell.
I gotta love how this became from a “shot” to the 3s community when in reality this is turned into another 3s needs a rebalance thread very tricky… they are learning.
SIRLINS YOMI IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS
I think that for the most part people would rather see Capcom use their time balancing the game people actually play. 3S is effectively a “solved” game and a rebalance seems like it would be a futile attempt to reinvigorate the game. Nobody has any illusions about 3SOE bringing about some great renaissance to the community.
People get sentimental and irrational about their old loves. I don’t think many of the 3S purists have that much of a problem with balancing, say, SFIV or MVC3. Those games are still developing and people are far less attached to it.