The battle of opinions.
‘‘Street Fighter III: Third Strike - This year [2008], in the Top 8, we had Chun, Chun, Chun, Chun, Chun, and Yun. In 2007, we had Chun, Chun, Chun, and Chun. In 2006, we had Yun, Yun, Yun, Yun, Chun, Chun, and Chun. In 2005, we had Chun, Chun, Chun, Chun, Chun, Yun, and Yun. I don’t think there’s anything left to say about this game.
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Damn is this true lol? That’s crazy, talk about variety and S tier characters… And here we are complaining about Yuns in AE lol. Just for the sake of that, maybe they should have balanced SOME things. But nah, I guess fans would not prefer that.
He didn’t just point out imbalance, he said “3s is one of the worst balanced games around”… if you can’t see that is an emotionally loaded phrase, then you need your head examined…
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here’s the bottom line: play what you like. why do some of you listen to this “genius” game designer tell you what you should be playing? play what you enjoy. haters gonna hate.
Everytime I read something by Sirlin, he’s always like “But in MY games…”
While I do believe he makes some very valid points regarding character balance (3s is almost as bad ad mvc2 in that department), I think he’s missing something very important.
Yes, we the community sometimes get overly nostalgic and become scared of change, but at the end of the day, broke-ass chun and all, people LIKED third strike. They liked it when the first tier list was made, and they still like it countless tier lists later.
Sometimes a game is balanced, and people like that, and sometimes a game is Hella broke and people don’t give a shit cuz they’re having a good time. One reason why I think people were able to accept the unbalance, was because of the parry system. The parry system, no matter what character you used, it rewarded the better player ALWAYS. You can’t autopilot parries, you can’t rely on a good character for parries, you can only rely on yourself, and your ability to read them. Did that destroy the zoning aspect of the game. Yeah. But Rather that becoming shallower, It simply became a whole new kind of street fighter (whether you feel it’s deeper or not is up to personal opinion)
Basically, while Sirlin does have valid things to say, I also think he’s also not letting himself see why other people enjoy this broke ass game.
How is it emotionally loaded? Wtf? Get out.
It is emotionally loaded. Sirlin fan boy, if you want people to take you a little more seriously get rid off of that vaporware art.
Damn. Av shot is kinda a low blow son :lol:
Sirlin needs to quit it with the namedropping though. Shit’s killing me.
He’d probably say…“don’t like it, don’t play it”
Legendary game designer David Sirlin
If I didn’t know better I would say he is secretly defending HDR. 
Anyway, he raises some valid points but the problem is this a classic game and it is for the fans of that classic game. They don’t want any “fixes”. They love 3s for what she is, her flaws and her greatness. If you changed it you would simply be dividing the community that is devoted to this game.
Is the Mona Lisa perfect? Probably not, but we aren’t going to photoshop the shit out of her because she has some flaws.
BTW I actually hate 3s, but I understand why people love it.
“3s is one of the worst balanced games around” is a factually true statement in the context of games that people take seriously. There are tier lists and tournament results that Sirlin and others use to reason that this is the case. I’m trying to figure out how one can say that 3S is one of the worst balanced games around (because it is), without it being emotionally loaded. Suggestions?
Putting all my feelings of 3s aside, Sirlin has proved time and time again to be a fucking retard, even ST players think he fucked HDR up with his idea of rebalance, so get the fuck outta here with that shit
“3s is one of the worst balanced fighting games around.”
" I think parrying making projectiles and zoning hardly matter is an even bigger problem, as is the shallow hit-confirm-into-super gameplay in general"
People have been saying the exact same things about your game for 15 years, and you guys STILL GET BUTTHURT OVER IT?
I own both ST and 3S on arcade machine because to me these are two of the best fighting games ever made. I have a hard time deciding which one is better. And I played both all my life.
Sirlin is a moron. To me he doesn’t have any credibility after messing up Super Turbo with HDR. The changes Sirlin made butchered the legacy of ST. So if someone ever made him in charge of changing 3S, it would no doubt be messed up as well just like HDR.
Luckily there are players out there still trying to restore the legacy of ST.
Maybe those who play the games they love dont want to see their favorite game’s player base splintered off to die?
Again.
Sirlin is disgruntled.
There are going to be a lot of new players who might want to get into the game and get discouraged by some failure of a game designers opinion on it. People who love 3s ACTUALLY FUCKING LOVE THE GAME, and don’t play it cause it’s the fucking flavor of the month piece of shit like AE, so yeah we do get worked up over it