Shoryureppa! The Ken Thread

I finally got ST Ken section up at streetfighterdojo.com.

The link is:
http://streetfighterdojo.com/superturbo/ken/kenmatches.html

Yes, it’s ST and not HDR, but a good amount of it is similar and I expect HDR players will get some use out of the matches and extras.

You are awesome sir. 25+ matches of Daigo vs Aniken!!? Holy crap! :wow: I had seen some of those matches before, but I didn’t know they went to over 25. Nice.

BTW the various tricks section has Blanka’s info instead of Ken:

Various Tricks
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(1:21 in) st.Strong headbutt cancel into hop tricks
(3:19 in) Jab vertical ball through knocked down opponent to cross-up with st.Strong, st.Strong headbutt

Everything else seems good tho. Never seen Mattsun’s Ken before. This should be fun. :smokin: Many thanks zaspacer.

Yeah, my brain kinda turned to mush formating html for all 46(!) Ken vs. Ryu vids.
But it’s great to get that kinda footage of such great players.

Whoops!

Great catch!

I’ve gone in and fixed it.
If you find any more errors, please let me know.

My pleasure :slight_smile:

Happy to finally get it out for all the Ken players.

Dhalsim is next in line.

:woot:

OMG… 25 vids of aniken vs daigo?.. nice, Aniken is a monster!(aniken and damdai are my favorite ken players) i think daigo won the 60% and aniken won the 40%, pretty close and good if you ask me.

Wait WHAT!? You have ken vs cammy at 5/10 difficulty and cammy vs ken at 4/10 difficulty. I CALL FOUL!

So cammy has it easier than ken, yet ken has an even time with cammy?

IMO… Cammy is the easier matchup for ken

Whoops!

That should have been 5/10 for both.

I used this for my numbers:

Please let me know about any other errors you come across.

WTF… Ken vs Sim 2.5 - 7.5?, imo that match is 4 - 6.
ken vs gief 4 - 6?.. that match is really 6 - 4 or maybe 7 - 3.

can someone explain to me what makes ken and ryu’s MUs different?

im having a hard time figuring out how the MUs play out differently beyond Ken’s knee bash/better srks/super and ryu’s. . . well fake fireball?

looking from the outside in, it looks like ken is the better character(not from what i listed).

ha, i dont get it.

knee bash changes alot

Ryus super fireball changes ALOT

kens fierce dp hits on frame 1, making wakeup games limited

crossup tatsu knockdown is good for ryu (instant setup!)

what’s crossup tatsu?

vid plz?

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lol, that match has been on my youtube for like a year.

ken cant do that?

Ken’s won’t knock down unless they get into the air. So ken can tick off of it, but its unreliable. Ryu tends to be better since his fireball is better in most situations.

BTW, wtf with giving ryu f.hp and not giving ken that. Ken’s about the rushdown, so why does ryu need that?

My 2 cents

This is Ken’s thread, not Ryu, but here is my take, anyway: I lose to Guile and Dee Jay without the rush punch in VST. It’s all about getting at the perfect position for the FB trap.

The 4-6 is probably from the Japanese tier list that NH2 has posted. This must be so pretty much because Gunze and Pony are better Giefs than anyone else and actually manage to get in frequently, making shotos’ lives miserable. Similar reason why they say Guile beats Blanka and Sim beats Cammy: Muteki and Gian are/were a step beyond*.

*someone posted Muteki kinda retired

Agreed. Also, Ken has his st.Roundhouse which has more range than Ryu’s Rushing Fierce, tho it’s not comboable like the Rushing Fierce. And Ken also has his Crazy Kicks which do block damage while Ryu’s Rushing Fierce and Overhead don’t. Ryu and Ken can both do rushdown tactics, but Ken has more options for block damage vs turtles, plus the threat of Knee Bash loops make Ken more dangerous than Ryu up close.

How are you getting crazy kicks to hit a crouching opponent? The overhead is slower than ryu’s although it does have more range. I admit I could use the overhead/crazy kicks more, but I prefer counter pokes and srks and kneebashes. It just seems like forward hp for ryu was overkill.

Which Ryus are you playing that make the Rushing Fierce so good? Even top Ryu players rarely use the Rushing Fierce, except to advance and throw or Hadoken or whatever. Example: Daigo uses it mainly as a whiff into Super.

When DGV uses it to block string into throw, push into corner, or hit string into like 50%-60& damage.

I’m not saying its godly, but when ryu does it meaty he gets great options off of it. I just don’t understand why he needed something like that, especially now that he can block string into a fake fireball > throw.

I should also say I main fei alot now, so getting close to a ryu is just as dangerous as being far away.

The scrub ryus I was fighting today weren’t though.