i played rose casually and seriously when the game came out… Then dropped her for sim… meaning i went from stone to copper. =/ I’ll play her again if she’s decent.
What do you mean “decent?” Right now, Rose IS decent.
so is guile and vega.
Rose is not decent, sakura is decent, chun li is decent, Bison is decent rose sucks. but even characters that suck can hold it down its just a up hill battle.
So basically anything under Sagat and Ryu is decent? I believe decent means adequate, mediocre at the least. Saying both Chun-Li and Sakura are decent makes “decent” a pretty damn vast category. Having said that, I don’t see how Rose is below decent.
I’m not that worried about people switching to Rose. I mean SSF4 has ten new characters and most of them look solid, so if people change their main it will most likely be to a new character.
I’m definitely expecting to fight waves of Dudleys.
But we are the original Rose players. 
We have that experience!
We should write down the people who MAIN rose right now so we know who the imposters are lol.
I’m really disappointed on how they decided to let you combo ST after a HP reflect. To burn 2 EX stocks to do 140 damage (less after scaling) just seems like a waste and I doubt it’s going to be a staple of anyones game. They should have let you combo after HP reflect without having to FADC. I’m on the fence about her new ultra, but I’ll reserve judgment for that until I actually get my hands on the new game.
Heh you’re right. I saw the new Ken buffs pretty much right after this post and immediately thought ‘okay the flowcharters will stay where they are, the god-tier bandwagoners will probably migrate from Ryu/Sagat to Dudley, and Rose will be safe …’
They said (from the final build they played) you can just ST after a reflect and dont need to FDAC. My guess is reflect doesnt do any dmg still but give you a juggle for ST and U1 that was needed. So wont bother me if reflect does like 10dmg, as long as i get a ST or juggle out of it.
*Last time I checked all reflects does 50 damage and combo’s best from Jabs and her cr. Fierce (virtually no pushback on hit). HP reflect into Ultra 1 without any ex is pretty good comeback potential. Specially if Illusion Spark still does 500 damage. *
I’m very unsure about jumps to Dudley. What I saw about Dudley reminded me a bit of Rufus, another character that has insane pressure, target combos and numerous links to ultra. Rufus is considered powerful, yet he is barely used.
Things might differ in tournaments with high-level layers, but online, I dont see Dudley becoming favorite. Just because he’s style will be too hard for medium-level players, like Rufus.
We might see more Deejay actually. I run into a lot of Guile players even though Guile is considered low-tier, because he has basically an easy style. Deejay can do the same and is better.
Word is our girls backdash has been hit with a nerf bat. Not sure exactly how much… 
Ugh, that would be horrible :sad:
If true, hopefully it is still good enough to be a viable wakeup option.
I blame Luffy beating Daigo :lol:
Yup, her backdash got nerfed hard. It will be like Sagat current backdash. If it isnt fixed, i’ll probably change char :(.
Ugh not her dash, that was one of the best things about her. Loved being able to get out of situations with it since she couldnt get out of a lot of others. If this is the case she better have a nice wake up option.
Well, i used the dash defensively and offensively, the dash/backdash was my core weapon to bait stuff and for some mindgame.
Yeah we all did. Backdash is great for baiting reversals on wake-up and forward dash for surprises and even whiff punishing. This will change the way I play her drastically if the nerf is significant.
I know her dash was strong but not like it made her OP. Unless with U2 it was OP, but i just cant see that.