I wonder how effective the super jump would really affect things. I mean, the thing about Ibuki and Viper is that they can super jump cancel so that opens alot of options to them. I don’t think Elena is one to have a cancel like that, so it’s difficult to say if having one is more helpful or hurtful.
Super Jump cancelling can be free corner escape.
Extra landing frames will probably put a stop to that…
might sound kinda crazy… but i am really hoping she’s got Heal as one of her ultras (as long as it either heals really fast or it’s cancel-able)…
FA + what seems like a decent backdash
-LAU
Heal as an ultra would be broken as shit.
I just want her to have her low strong combo starter or Kara throw mixup from 3s and not just be one more character who confirms jabs into bnbs.
Pretty much. Having it as a Super just seems logical, and seeing how important meter management is in this game, we’ll probably make more use off EX moves anyway.
LOL just imagine how mad the top players would get let alone the scrubs if she had healing as an ultra. I imagine the hatemail would end up something like this:
“OMG what a cheap ass character who gets life back for me beating your ass get blocked srub.” Of course with even worse spelling and some extra words thrown in there.
As long as her high/low game is in tack, she will be in my array of chars
Unless her regular DP is pretty good and got invincibility frames… I can’t imagine ever using heal as super… will need those EX bars for EX DP … but yeah… heal as ultra will be pretty broke… but i guess it really depends… on the start up, recovery, cancellable, and how fast it heals… if heal can only heal like 20-25% of health… then even as ultra it’s not really that abusive…
-LAU
Heal will probably give 30-45 percent of focus recoverable health. which will probably regenerate really slow. in theory if Elena has 900 she will have 1150 because of healing.
In xT, Light Scratch Wheel is invincible to high attacks (good for AA) while EX is fully invincible (good for reversal), while M and H are good in combos. I know it’s we shouldn’t completely use it, but her xT model is a nice base of reference for a lot of her moves. If she wasn’t in xT, we’d be a little more lost. I hope she still has her 3f standing light kick. Such good range.
Focus recoverable health, that is a good idea. Then it can be an ultra. As a super, it should be 50% completely recovered health cause her wake up options without EX would be pretty bad, no?
Lol 50 percent is to much. 900 + 450 = a total up to 1350 stamina which is ridiculous. Even Hugo won’t have that much stamina.
I agree, 50 percent is a bit too much. More like 25 or something.
So basically assuming it remains the same her scratch wheel sucks as a wake up option if you don’t have ex… Once again if it’s a super it’ll pretty much be a complete waste … Unless timer is running out and you’re low on health and the extra life will make you come ontop lol
If Healing gives like 30%, it’ll be a fair tradeoff for burning all of your meter. It’s not like Elena relies on Healing like Yun relies on Genei Jin.
no matter how much health it is she should’t have healing as an ultra. just from a gameplay standpoint they shouldn’t reward players for taking damage by… giving them that damage for free back. will encourage risky and stupid play.
I’m not convinced she needs it at all now that I think about it. just give her a choice between her other two SAs for ultra and a faster version of brave dance for whiff punishes as a super like Chun.
It’s not about the fact whether she needs it or not. It was one of her super arts and it’s a signature thing about the character, especially since every other 3rd Strike character in SF4 has each of their 3 Super arts existing in some form. Even Tanden Renki which is practically useless on Makoto – she has much better supers in 3S that give her more meter as well, and in SF4, she has much better use for meter. Doesn’t mean we can just omit that from the character.
Seeing as she’s 99% likely to have a super jump, you’ll probably be able to super jump cancel into your Brave Dance Ultra from limbs anyway.
Ignore >.<
I was never good at jump cancelling guess it’s time to learn