Pandora? Just add a 20% remaining rage mode and call it lol. I really dont like the extra stuff of Pandora even if it is "useless’. I hate the design.
But hey there may be a Gem for this. Wouldn’t surprise me at all. At 10% life gain alot of extra damage.
Or they could do the same for GEMS and make us really happy!
As for Pandora sucking. I think with zero frame startup+some invincibility it could be a threat more than a weapon. People would have to really think twice about pokes and such. You could basically FORCE your opponent to turtle big time. Knowing your opponent is going super defensive would be a tool.
It’s hard to say but i remember people saying counter ultras would never connect in high level play but if I remember Broken Tier got hit with one during the EVO final so you never know.
I have to vote for the no gem slot gem. Or get the most useless gem for tourneys or something.
But we wait and see. I totally doubt with so many combinations that the gem be actually played tho.
Also as other suggested a no Pandora systems slot perhaps but I don’t think the system will be overpowered.
Just remove Pandora altogether. And also the Gems.
Just focus on the damn core game, Capcom.
aint gonna happen GEMS ARE here to STAY…deal with it 
Plz plz plz plz plz plz
I say leave the gems since we don’t even know how they work yet… Once we know more then we should talk about how they effect the gameplay. They did say it was an essential part of the game and they haven’t figured out how it would be distributed yet.
This. A million times this.
I can agree with that; make Gem mode like Challenge+World Tour mode, wherein you play and fight against AI opponents who have altered attributes like inf. meter, etc.
Looks like it might be possible to play without gems.
Though it looks like it would only affect offline, I don’t think it will make a difference online.
HAH, I KNEW IT.
I’ve suspected that you can play without Gems, and I think that is how Tournies will go with.
Didn’t we know this ever since the system was announced? o_O
You can pick no gems at the gem selection screen, that’s all.
^ yeah they said this repeatetly on the last stream SFxT was played on.
It wasn’t completely obvious to me, and probably most people as I didn’t watch any NYCC streams and simply followed the news articles on here and the frontpage, and as Ono said you can’t turn them off (Which was probably a poor translation, anyway) I naturally assumed that you had to pick 5 gems in order to be allowed to start a game.
I’m hopeful that Pandora just gets removed. No one actually wants it to be good, so the best option is to just remove it and forget about the whole concept. It’s not as though shoehorning in a comeback mechanic is what’s going to sell this game to the masses anyway. Capcom doesn’t seem to realize that Ultras were never the reason that SFIV has been such a hit.
This is really really old news. They have been saying from the beginning that you have the option to not pick gems…
I am part of the crowd that really hates the ultra system, but like the ultra system or not at the very least Ono’s crew came up with a philosophy for a comeback mechanism and implemented it all the way through. They had an idea what they were doing. Cutting away Pandora would be evidence that they have no idea what they are doing and they are just throwing in random mechanisms into the game without caring about the implications of each mechanism.
Seriously, can someone tell me what direction they are taking with this game? At first I though that this game is going to be Street Fighter 4 with a more fluid Darkstalker like footsies and some Tekken style juggles. Now I don’t know what is going on, and I am starting to doubt that Ono’s crew knows what they are doing to the game.
…and yet people have been complaining about them for the longest time.
Yeah it’s really frustrating, not only personally, but for the community since we are trying to have a discussion about gems and half the people don’t even know what they are arguing about. To think of all the time/posts that could have been saved had the author realized that the option to not pick gems has always been there.
It’s a little shocking, but I suppose it shouldn’t be: it is the internet, after all. The reading comprehension has slowly been going down among internet users, it seems. It’s all a part of this “tl;dr” bullcrap. And the most frustrating part is that because the reading comprehension is so bad, people will try and make counter arguments with things that don’t make sense. For example, I have seen many well written arguments against gems, specifically the DLC ones; why the philosophy of “selling power” is bad (speculative since we still don’t know what the DLC gems will do), the potential unfair advantage of pre-order gems (again, speculative), and how, if it does become “pay to win” it will hurt the online of the game. And, more often than not, the response is “lol, turn off gems for tournies”, completely ignoring the fact that tournament play was not the point of the argument, it was that “pay to win” is not a good road to head down.
It’s also amusing to see things like the number of gems skyrocket each time. I remember the first estimate was around a hundred, because I think Ono said as much or at least hinted at that many. Then I saw a thread stating 200. Then there were posts using phrases like “…with over 300 gems…” lol. That’s just par for the internet, I suppose.
Again, this isn’t a case of being uneducated, I’ve been following this site’s news feed every day for years, and not once have I heard on here that you can select no gems, according to genistar the only way people could have known about this is if they watched the full press release, which we naturally don’t think we need to with a bunch of bullet point posts spread throughout the internet.