SFV PS4 legacy controller compatible sticks/PCBs (see first post)

[Darksakul]

There certainly appears to be room for improvement in the implementation of the LabZero driver, atleast according to the guy who developed it.
He mentioned on twitter that its possible to have it work without any additional lag and without a ds4 to beeing connected.
Its just a matter of Capcom reading documentation and fixing their code.

got a link for that?

[Dubon]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeZSez

Check his tweets from the 15th

[Darksakul]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeZSez

Check his tweets from the 15th

Thanks.
For others who are reading the thread, the 15th we are referring to was the 15th of Feb 2016.

Mike Zaimont (MikeZSez)

Mike Zaimont (MikeZSez)

Mike Zaimont (MikeZSez)

[FreedomGundam]

I was under the impression that the requirement for the DS4 being connected was because you need to have a profile connected to the player in SFV, just like it is in MKX.
I’m presuming that the profile requirement isn’t there for Skullgirls.

[oldskoolgaming]

I’m having issues getting the MadCatz SE to stay on longer than five minutes. The PS4 recognizes the legacy controller, I make sure that the stick is in “DP”, I have the DS4 plugged in as well to avoid the shutdown, but the stick still becomes unresponsive. Sometimes, the joystick doesn’t respond, other times it’s the buttons. When it does manage to stay on longer, and I’m able to get into a match, the stick randomly stops responding mid game. I know that it has been confirmed to work, so I’m wondering if there is something on my part that I am doing wrong. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Have u tried using a USB 2.0 hub for the Stick? My TE-S will only work if it is connected through the hub and not directly to the PS4
I have to plug in the hub first, then connect the joystick and it will be detected

[Dubon]

I was under the impression that the requirement for the DS4 being connected was because you need to have a profile connected to the player in SFV, just like it is in MKX.
I’m presuming that the profile requirement isn’t there for Skullgirls.

Do you need a profile for per controller? Iow do you need 2 profiles for local multiplayer? Ive been playing on pc so far.

Heres how SG handles it:

That’s entirely up to MKX/NRS, it has nothing to do with devkit vs retail. A profile is not required for the driver, it is required by the GAME for savedata and trophies and things. The PS3 driver itself doesn’t care about any profiles or anything at all besides which sticks are plugged in. (Though I would assume you don’t need to keep the controller actually physically plugged in, just not dead, so the 2 USB ports isn’t really an issue unless you’re at low battery, and you can probably plug the DS4 into another USB port like your phone charger, for power. That’s some sideways spin there, heh.)

SG does NOT work that way, as already shown on repeated Salty streams. SG keeps the profile that started the game always logged in, and that’s the only profile it uses no matter which controllers you add or remove. You need a single DS4 to press one button and dismiss the “You plugged in a legacy controller, the Home button won’t work” message that you get when plugging in a PS3 stick the first time - and we’re trying to fix that, too! - but after that point you can disconnect the DS4 and play the game entirely with PS3 sticks until you turn it off. I even wrote special code where if the DS4 was in charge of the menus, when you unplug it the game finds the first PS3 stick and puts that one in charge, which is not how other console versions work.

[edit] Just checked with my phone charger, you can leave a DS4 connected to your PS4 and charge it that way. If you connect it to something else that recognizes it as a controller (like your PC, with DS4 drivers) then it will disconnect from the PS4

[FreedomGundam]

I was under the impression that the requirement for the DS4 being connected was because you need to have a profile connected to the player in SFV, just like it is in MKX.
I’m presuming that the profile requirement isn’t there for Skullgirls.

Do you need a profile for per controller? Iow do you need 2 profiles for local multiplayer? Ive been playing on pc so far.

Yes, you do need a profile per controller (actual profile, or guest profile), regardless of whether you’re using actual PS4 controllers or not.

[MaxPowerrs]

I’m having issues getting the MadCatz SE to stay on longer than five minutes. The PS4 recognizes the legacy controller, I make sure that the stick is in “DP”, I have the DS4 plugged in as well to avoid the shutdown, but the stick still becomes unresponsive. Sometimes, the joystick doesn’t respond, other times it’s the buttons. When it does manage to stay on longer, and I’m able to get into a match, the stick randomly stops responding mid game. I know that it has been confirmed to work, so I’m wondering if there is something on my part that I am doing wrong. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Have u tried using a USB 2.0 hub for the Stick? My TE-S will only work if it is connected through the hub and not directly to the PS4
I have to plug in the hub first, then connect the joystick and it will be detected

The USB hub totally worked! I didn’t get a non response for 20 minutes, which is the longest I have gone so far! Thanks for the tip!

[oldskoolgaming]

Q4RAF works. I have this["]version](http://i.imgur.com/Jk3Dh7M.jpg[/img)
there is another version of Q4RAF with ‘stickman’ logo if anyone can test

[NCBLANKA]

Soooo I see the Qanba Q2 isn’t on the confirmed working or not working list. I just ordered one so now im scared and kinda bummed I just blew money and its not going to work lol. Arrggh

[DEZALB]

Let get couple of things straight

1. If you are so worried about lag, don’t bother looking at any converter (any brand, any model) as it will include another step in the process thus another few milliseconds of delay
2. You have to take the base controller into consideration, in this case the Mad Catz TE Round 1 (1st Gen)
3. the Brook device is said to have 5ms of delay (do not quote me on that)
4. (this goes for everything) even if the converter is not at fault and the stick does not lag, not every device will be compatible with every other device and the combination could cause various issues.

so is the 5ms for brook device the usb adapters, the ps2 to ps4 or both? Do you happen to know if they did lag test on the brook ps3/4 board?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeZSez

Check his tweets from the 15th

Thanks.
For others who are reading the thread, the 15th we are referring to was the 15th of Feb 2016.

https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/699338008848265216
https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/699340593894264833
https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/699344184596017152

Wonder if they want us to buy more joysticks or if it has something to do with the fact they arent funded enough? Seeing how we got a barebones release

[Darksakul]

Wonder if they want us to buy more joysticks or if it has something to do with the fact they arent funded enough? Seeing how we got a barebones release

If that is the case, they wouldn’t include the drivers

[Dubon]

i think they just had to rush their implementation so they probably copy pasted most of it from their usfiv code. Hopefully theyll take some time to improve ps3 legacy sticks support.

[wootsnorlax]

The Qanba Q2 Glow Evo Edition works with the legacy support! Because of that I believe the whole Qanba Q2 series should, but I’m not sure about the details on it.

[DEZALB]

Wonder if they want us to buy more joysticks or if it has something to do with the fact they arent funded enough? Seeing how we got a barebones release

If that is the case, they wouldn’t include the drivers

Yeah , I’m more leaning towards the release being rushed.

And they include drivers but they work like crap. Gets ppl playing then getting mad to inputlag. So they go and buy a “proper” arcade stick. If capcom was evil that is

[Haruspex]

I can confirm that the zero delay pcb works without any problems on sfv with the legacy support. A small hassle is that you have to assign the “mode” on a button in order to switch to POV hat and have working inputs on the joystick. I bought this version:

Zero Delay USB Encoder PC to Joystick For Arcade DIY Kit MAME Sanwa Parts |...

I am just hoping that Capcom will improve the drivers for legacy support and be the same as SG.

[Feargus001100]

Seem’s like a good investment to get USB 2.0 support on PS4, unless this product is total B.S.
http://ps4daily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/41CqpJyx-wL.jpg

May pick-up some kind of USB-Hub-Thiny like this before I “ritual sacrifice” any of my PS2 adapters to the PS4.

I just picked up the same hub but mine is branded as Insgnia. I give it a few play throughs before I report further.

Well mine finally arrived in the mail, 2 days after the online tracking said it had been delivered, go USPS!!!, came in plain brown box, no retail packaging, mine was not branded Insignia either :i_dunno:

Anyways after ten days of nightly 2~3 hour sessions on PS4, and then taking the adapter with me back to work during the day for “Office Rounds” on PC, that Amazon Hub + ✪TAC Universal PS2 to PS3 Controller Adapter + Any PS2 stick or controller is a pretty stable setup as far as legacy sticks go

[aszyd]

taking the adapter with me back to work during the day for “Office Rounds” on PC

I can get away with a lot of stuff at work, but damn, I don’t think that I could ever pull off “Office Rounds.” Lucky!

[Karr80]

Hori RAP3 works

InPin ps2 -> ps3 adapter does not work.

Qanba Q2 works, but the buttons are different, circle and square swapped, r1->l1, r2->l2

[General_Awesomo]

The HRAP.3 SA works.

Hori RAP3 works

InPin ps2 -> ps3 adapter does not work.

Qanba Q2 works, but the buttons are different, circle and square swapped, r1->l1, r2->l2