SFV Lounge: Ken is high mid. Kage is barely mid. F2P still coming

Birdie struggles alot with abigail’s nitro run. It’s actually hillarious seeing pros scurry around when Abigail does his nitro run.
A great example here.

I thought it got nerfed in season 4? Idk. Sagat gets ex dp. I think Akuma can lp dp.

Oh yeah, I forgot it’s -9 if he’s in v-trigger now. It’s still only -5 if he’s not in trigger though.

yeah it’s the non VT version that I have some trouble with… but from your responses what I take it is that it’s basically down to a far reaching DP or a fast special.

You can lp SPD or ex SPD his stupid face after blocking ex bullhead.

They got taken for a few reasons. Short answer is the devs dont want meterless stuff invincible on frame 1.

Long answer involves multiple wake up timings, no safe jumps because there arent many hard knockdowns, few true block strings, and limited throw range. Offense is actually bad compared to any other sf game. It appears strong in this game because there isnt anything available for defense and vtriggers make characters dumb for 20ish seconds every round.

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Also since we were on the subject of Abigail, some Abigail only combos

Well, almost Abigail only, the first one works on G and Sagat as well

Oh and fun with double charged v-skill (also works on Blanka and Balrog)

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Abigail is paying for his Season 3 crimes

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Yeah. I actually read those patch notes the other day. I am way too late to this party.

Taking out meterless invincible reversals was for the best. Problem with bison is that he has a 3 frame normal. Shotos could contest him upclose in s1 but now that’s out of the question.

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Nice of him not to include ex zonk.

Yes, leaving meterless aggression disproportionately better than a few defensive options definitely improved the game.

:neutral_face:

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Marina Bay sands is in my country Singapore.

Where is the disagree button. Imagine actually thinking this.

Why you posting angry Kliff Kingsbury gifs fam?

meterless aggression isnt really that powerful. And meter less invincible reversals isnt exactly a universal special amongst the cast. On the other hand v reversal or critical art (except for vega) is. What you want is a new defensive mechanic. The question is whether certain characters (cammy/ryu/ken) having this special is fair relative to the gameplay design and the design of the rest of the cast.

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man the Bison Juri mu is just so hopeless, I don’t even know what to do at his point, he doesn’t even needs to put up some pressure just pushing buttons at midrange will do

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Or you can just air grab>vanish>dragon rush.
It seems I’m not the only Jiren/Broly/16 in town.