Neither Daigo or Tokido have the moral high ground to make such claims as both of them were/are specializing in top tier characters/tier whores. Their decrying of Bison is nothing more than a distraction. When Akuma is finally nerfed, let’s talk Bison who isn’t even Top 5 anymore.
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I think Bison is top 5
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Top 5 villains of all time? Sure. Top 5 fighting game villains? Most certainly. Top 5 smiles in fiction? Abso-fucking-lutely.
But Top 5 in SF5 S4 Tiers? Oh nononononono. He’s barely a 6.
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“Not” being a top 5 character doesn’t mean a lot of the shit he does isnt just plain stupid.
He ain’t no Rashid but they both should get some of this bat here.
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I’ll concede to berfs only - where the alleged “plain stupid” shit is softened but compensated with better and more fun albeit non-stupid opportunities elsewhere in his arsenal.
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Yea but this is going against SF V design.
Shit ,is Bison balanced after all ?
V-skill 2 please
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I’d say G isn’t top 5 but his VT1 could use nerfs.
I don’t think tier placement should really define your position to not receive nerfs. Especially when risk/reward on Bison right now is very skewed in his favour.
Remember tiers are more indicative to your MUs across the cast, so a very strong character can be sub top 5 due to some horrible problem matchups. Examples are S3 Menat, S3.0 Abigail, G
I was messing around in UNIST and 360s aren’t direction dependent. the same motion works for both sides, which seems like a double standard, everything else is direction depended. I’m playing on my ugly ass home made hitbox that has a little bit of a spit between the direction buttons and the action buttons, so i just swipe across them and perfect SPD everytime. Cheatbox achieved!
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Judging by Bison’s design in SFV his second v-skill should add an aura around him and if you get too close to him you get automatically crush countered…
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Don’t give them ideas.
Fair enough, but you also have to see things in context. Character normals, specials, and VTs don’t exist in a vacuum. If you nerf his VT1 you will have to address his dependency on it and give him something else.
Daigo may have been complaining about Bison’s S.HP, but let’s see how far he can go with that. He wouldn’t even make Top 64 with his Bison. Bison may have stupid shit, but he won’t win on that alone at high level OFFLINE play, which is what competitive fighting games should be balanced around.
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I was playing ST yesterday and doing SRK’s on Hitbox was truly the first time that I felt like I had an unfair advantage.
The SRKs in that game (at least the arcade roms) have to be done so quick and so precise it took pro players a lot of time to get them down reliably… On Hitbox I had them down pretty much right away.
Edit: I mean, I have been doing them legitimately (no shortcuts) in SFV for a month or so now, but they’re a lot less lenient in ST.
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If you play tekken you can see how broken hitboxes can really be. couch dashing is a breeze and EGF becomes super easy because of the instant return to neutral. Movement is super easy too, just have to wrap your brain around the thumb jump button being sidestep away, it’s kind of melts your brain for a second.
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To be honest, if you don’t rely on SFV’s ridiculous shortcuts and buffer, it’s a lot easier to actually know how to DP.
I actually had an easier time doing them on ST lmao.
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Yeah but if everyone starts using performance enhancers, it will level the playing field. It will be fair!!!
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Nerf Bison and make Ken’s EX air tatsu + on block again
Nerf everyone but Falke, Zangief and Sakura.
Nerf Gief back to S3
They actually should nerf him back to S2.5!