Correct, there are a few OS vs. VRs in the game, Ryu can OS with parry.
This doesn’t affect the usefulness vs. Gills though.
Incorrect, maybe? You see in Gills trailer that Fhk and fireball both apply the burn state status.
Ice type attacks are only shown to apply via EX moves.
Oh no, that wasn’t my point. I was wondering, or more accurately, trying to stir discussion about the possibility of Gill having the same kind of OS Parry as Ryu does.
I suppose I can check. Brb.
It’s the exact same input so yeah it’ll exist. You just buffer into it during your recovery of certain attacks because the VR screen freeze will extend your cancel window, quite like a CC OS.
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Ok, that’s a tough one.
Basically, the non-EX/VT burn moves have some flaming effects, but they’re cosmetic.
The real burn effect leaves the opponent glowing red like if they were on Sim’s VT1 flame carpet.
The effects are kinda similar, but pretty different when you look at it closely.
Visual Comparison
Burn Effect
https://youtu.be/y6AopdaBW-I?t=63
https://youtu.be/pktA-j0RTt0?t=131
No Burn Effect
https://youtu.be/pktA-j0RTt0?t=69
https://youtu.be/pktA-j0RTt0?t=121
See how Bison immediately recovers from the burn on the second and third vids without hitting Gill? No burn damage either.
Yeah the whole character model must change color to setup retribution, but any of them with effects can trigger it
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I am aware. Watch the trailer, his sthp has the flaming effect, while regular fireball and quarrel kick apply the red hue status effect.
You did click the “visual comparison” tab with the time stamped vids showing that regular fireball does not apply the burn effect, right?
Champion Edition should have added 100 more blacklist slots as a bonus to people who bought it!
I got 3 people at forgotten waterfall, 1 at fields of fate, 2 at a very laggy dojo today and couldn’t bl them because of lack of space!
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Nah, on phone. Watched it now. See you what you mean, Retribution was explained incredibly poorly.
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The normals trigger thw anti type stuff but dont give status effects iirc.
Its in his movelist
The blog post made it sound like Retribution encompassed all heavies, specials etc. It didn’t mention only specific EX moves activated the status.
If anyone can frame count the gameplay Volt linked to check if stmp is a 5f mid and stlp is a 3f that’d be swell.
That won’t work. It’s the crappy quality “where my Cr. MK hitbox at” you posted earlier. It’s 30fps.
The only 60fps footage we got is the trailer one and the “Blocking” one.
We know Gill has at least one 3f button, Cr.LP, so he isn’t food on defense.
I wonder if the range is the same as Urien’s…
I was also wondering if Gill even has a crush counter system. Not the trailer nor that gameplay showed a single CC.
Maybe Retribution fully replaces it.
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Maybe it is a signal that S5 will fully remove that stupid system.
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People are wondering about that on the Discord server as well.
I don’t remember seeing a vid where Gill should have got a CC but didn’t, but if there’s one, it’s the crappy JP footage vid.
Gill has a Discord already? Invite me
Bitch, ask politely or you ain’t getting shit.
Edit: Invite screen is bugging out. Weird. Must be a problem with the latest update.
You better hope this works.
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? What, I asked politely. I’ll go find the link if you wanna be weird about it.
Nah, I’m just fucking with you, I was getting the link. 
Edit: I just googled that one, if it’s the wrong one, Rugalitarian and Twin might manage to get an invite.
Is anyone else not managing to get invite links? Mine just keeps stuck on the “looking for friends” screen.