SF4 WAY to lenient on commands

What nonsense

I’m just saying you can’t do it quickly like you could do in ST. But yea if you slowed down to SF4 timing, you can do it.

You can do it as quick as you can do :r::qcf:+p

Nope this DOES NOT WORK!! Due to the leniency of SF4 the game takes that button combination as a ‘messed up’ shoryuken input and gives you that move instead. Now this isn’t anything new to SF4, what makes it different in SF4 is that the time to input these commands has been increased dramatically. So let’s say you do F,D,DF,F+P in ANY SF game … you will get shoryuken. That’s not my issue, my issue is that when you do F, pause, D,DF,F+P you STILL get shoryuken whereas in previous games this wouldn’t happen. You either have to make your pause longer or input more commands. I’ve found that doing F,pause,B,DB,D,DF,F+P works best to avoid this issue in SF4.

always complaining…
but on a serious note if this is actually causing you trouble id hit up training mode and just practice the real motions and then start incorporating your “steping forward then fireball” youll get the hang of it in no time.

Yep, welcome to SF4.

I just don’t understand why Capcom feels the need to betray the audience that has played their games since the beginning for no reason. To appeal to the mass audience it would have been much simpler to just include an EO mode like they did in CvS2. Not to mention the fact that this would have actually made the game MORE fun for ‘elite’ and ‘n00b’ players alike. Not only would the timing stay the same for the ‘elite’ players but the ‘n00b’ players would be able to do all the specials/supers they want much easier! CvS2 EO mode allowed even my little sister to do walking 720s while even with this new timing increase I doubt if she could pull off a walking 360.

My point is that Capcom dropped the ball. (short and sweet for those who don’t like to read)

I just walked half a screen up to a Sagat player and low forward EX FB’d in his face with absolutely no pause. Yes it takes practise but I can assure you, your inputs are sloppy.

While it is too lenient, it isnt broken. Stop whinning and adjust your motions. Stop smashing the arcade stick and buttons.

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This style doesnt work in SF4.

^true story.
if your really holding forward(not letting go when you nail the button) at the end a fireball WILL come out, i havent had any trouble as long as i keep that stick forward and not mistime my punch button. it is true if you do it very fast after the stick reaches the DF position then it will kind of go back frames in time and give you your SRK, but if you dont hit that button untill your sure that stick is in the forward position it should work fine everytime.

This is why i only play charge characters.

You are an iddiot! When did I ever say i was trying to buffer a low foward into a fireball? I am at long distance and am trying to walk to that ‘sweet spot’ for the fireball trap.

lenient? this game is too slow and the short cuts make everything hard to input. there’s hardly any chain moves in this game, everything cancels and links into everything. some cancels feel like links because the game is too fucking slow. hardest inputs since sf1 in my opinion. not to mention a cluster fuck of inputs for some characters to do a special, FADC, into ultra. this game is so not new user friendly and it seems that ono wanted something easier to play. failsauce on that one.

but practice makes perfect. just don’t lose your head trying to learn everything in this game. there are ways around shortcuts but the links are what will fuck with you the most. especially those one frame links. god why did they put those in the game?

Until some tournaments disallow EO and others don’t and the “elites” make fun of the “EO noobs” and the new players quit because everyone tells them they’re playing “Easy mOde” and should l2p.

Capcom had the following choice:

Change the game to make a larger audience, possibly revitalizing the core style (approximately) SF against other, newer fighters and possibly be able to launch from here to more games…

-OR-

Appease the graybeards who think that if you can’t consistently make a 1-frame link into a DP after holding back+K with anything less than perfect execution you’re a scrub…

Which do you think is more likely to grow the community and help SF4 compete in the numbers game with other good fighters out there today?

gahaha man that awesome man

You’re the one having trouble with the input and I’m the idiot? Walking low forward xx FB or just walking FB, same thing, you’re hitting punch too early.

Go into training mode and post a picture of :r::qcf:+p giving a SRK, I’ll wait.

Umm what EO playing ‘n00b’ is even going to go to a tournament?

EDIT: If you can’t get F,pause,D,DF,F+P to give you a shoryuken you are just as slow as this game is… go play SSF2T and you’ll know what I mean. BTW this is my last response to speedsix because you’re obviously a ‘n00b’ or a troll.

They must be used to playing dat mahvel.

:confused:

A lot of people go to tournaments, particularly smaller local tournaments, even when they know they’re outclassed simply to experience the scene. Some of those people see things they didn’t know about or become inspired by the better (whether gameskill or attitude) players to actually seriously compete. I’ve seen it happen with quite a few people in the DDR scene where after meeting the better players (players that didn’t go to their local arcade unless there was a tournament) the former DDR noob spent the next year becoming pretty damn good at the game.

n00bs and newbs going to tournaments is a good thing for helping the community grow and ensuring that five or ten years down the line there’ll be SF 6, 7 or 8 with people who want to play when half the current greybeards give up.

Keep practising champ.