SF4 @ Chinatown Fair

I haven’t tried the D stop, but the 456 stop at City Hall is pretty damn short, esp. if you get out of the JMZ line area (it puts you right outside of City Hall across the traffic intersection). Just make sure you walk a straight line towards mott/bowery. You go through a back alleyway called Park Row that’s the parking area for off-duty police cars with no foot/car traffic. Check googlemaps and you’ll see what I mean if you draw a straight line from City Hall and 8 Mott Street.

If D line is more convenient, that could be fast, too… it really depends on what you have access to.
Whatever works best, I say try them all. Good luck.

lol isnt the train ride a bit longer and then you gotta risk waiting 15 more minutes for the next train, you shave off like, what, 5 minutes unless its a saturday? if you’re already taking the 456 line cuz you take the path or something, then yeah i think your path would be better.

I’m dying to get a run at this game. I’ll prolly stop over once Free Transit Week kicks in. Man Jersey sucks, we got no arcades.

i was there Sunday (the kid with the hammer shirt). Street fighter 4 = :pray: Awesome game im commin back Tuesday hopefully. BTW i was ryu

GGs to everyone this afternoon.

And yeah, the D train is a really easy way to get to CF, and walking down Bowery is much better than walking up Canal.

Okay, this thread has served its purpose. Down to matchmaking with you!

Note: link vids in the SF4 vid thread

I KNEW IT! You lying bum…I told you that fight is hard as fawk but you wouldnt listen…Thats why i play rog :lame: Negro ROG! I see i have to beat more people in cf for recognition…ah well at least im off warcraft more :cool:

By the time I showed up, between 6:00 and 6:30 as you can imagine it was pretty crowded, but it was well organized and if I had the time to wait around I probably could of gotten some games in. For now I was content just to watch, I managed to sneak myself really close to the screen heh heh!

I saw some Ryu, Chun-Li, Zangief, Sagat, Master Bison and Rufus action! LOL at Rufus’ win quotes, homeboy has like a wall of text. :rofl:

The returning characters have nice little touches, like I saw Chun-Li doing her standing fireball (SF3TS) and her bending over fireball (ST). Pretty cool! :tup:

It’s true what the say. Videos and stills really don’t do this game justice. You have to see it in person, it’s freaking GORGEOUS! Best background I saw was the China Stage, there was a lot going on there. :lovin:

I’m really not one for crowds and like to wait a bit until people start using some of the new characters more, but I have a few weeks off in September. I’ll probably stop by then to play some games. I’ll be hanging around randomly to spectate lol!

Dear lord Capcom please do not make me wait until February 2009 for the console version… I want my copy, NOW… :sweat:

This game is fucking crack. I’ll be back again ether thursday or saturday, maybe both. I’m hooked.

Hey guys iam soulbadguy/jackson

Sorry if i was a bit annoying i had huge headache.

Well i suck(as expected)with Vega but i plan to play more.

GGs to all who played today, I was the Bison player with the lime green/white stripe shirt. Some REALLY good competition today… Saw so many new combo possibilities today. SF4 is sick. Be there tomorrow night 7:00 to 11:00 PM.

-Javits

The game was AWWWWsome:pray::yawn:
but i couldn’t learn any new characters or controls cause i fought “Justin WONg” and lost less 30 seconds:wow::sad:

hopefully i’m coming thursday, this game is gonna rob me blind

Mvc2 >>> SF4

That is all…

I think I know who you are. Were you that bald white dude who aciidently pick “Trial Mode” or “Training Mode?” Cause if so I DEFINATELY remember who you are.

Were you the big guy in the rest shirt with the list? If so then I remember who you are. I give you props that you playa MEAN Zangief. I was the person who played you with Abel, and on the last round we both had a little bit of health left. and you owned me with the ex running powerbomb. :sad:

For those who wondered who am I. I was there Saturday as the tall dark dude with the Navy blue Golden State Worriors Jersey with Derrick Fisher’s number (4).

1)I played with Abel got 3 wins (one win first then a 2 game streak the next) :woot:
2)played with Guile got 1 won against Joe who used Rufus. :razz:
3)Used Chun-li and got owned by some scrub 'gief who kept jumping
4)Got PWND when I used Viper. (I will try again with her)

Overall it was a good night. :tup:

Things I notived Saturday night.

  1. Zangief is a MONSTER in that game. If he had Airial Russian Slam as a Special move(ala crossovers) he would of be top-tier HANDSDOWN! :amazed:

2)Abel is pretty good. Maybe TOO good? :wonder: Just wish he had more moves/command grabs.

3)A few guile users. But I was the ONLY guy that did Somersault Justice AND Somersault Explosion. :looney: :lol:

4)That Joe dude is a BEAST with Sagat. I got Pwnd by him once. He had like 2 or 3 6 games streaks with Sagat :wow:
5) This once dude played with E.Honda. He was CONSTANTLY catching dudes with Honda’s 360 grab. He win a few matches doing nothing but that 360 grab! :rofl:

I was there from 12:30 PM to 7:30 PM yesterday. I signed up using my initials (“JAS”). Aside from a single attempt at Rufus (the first and only for the day aside from Justin Wong, at least up until I left), I played nothing but blue/yellow Bison. I had about 25 wins with him overall (two 6-0 runs, a 5-1 run, and the rest short runs, including a loss to JWong). Not bad for my first try at SFIV. I lost to Ryu four times (three different players), one Gief, one Blanka, and JWong’s Rufus.

Sadly, it’ll probably be my last try at SFIV until the console version, since I’m heading back to Trinidad on Wednesday, and there’s no way in hell anywhere in my country is going to get SFIV. :frowning:

Anyway, random thoughts:

  • As I had long suspected, throws in general don’t do enough damage. Throw range, on the other hand, isn’t bad at all. Tick throws are good in this game, though I could do without the 7% damage.

  • At the moment, I’d say Gief is just right: If he gets in close and grabs you, he wins. If he doesn’t, he loses. That pretty much summed up Gief’s performance yesterday. One guy with him was good and got a 6-0 run (I lost to him), but the others who tried him didn’t do so good.

  • Rufus is very annoying. Very hard to get off you if he knocks you down and dive kicks the crap out of you. Also, while I have no problem with his j.HK -> Ultra, I find that being able to tack on Ultra after his BnB in the corner (dive kick, c.LK/s.HP, HP Galaxy Tornado) is a bit much.

  • As far as I can tell, El Fuerte is garbage. There was one guy who was trying his best, but it seemed like he was working three times as hard as his opponent to win, and that still wasn’t enough. I think it’s mainly the fact that, when he gets an opening, his biggest combo is, what, jumping HP, c.MP? Throw? He just can’t string together enough damage to take advantage of things, and his running moves are all weak.

  • Viper may be as bad as Fuerte, I’m not sure. She was only played a couple times and pretty much got destroyed by whoever her opponent was. This included at least one good Gief, so I don’t think this was a good representation of what she can (or can’t) do.

  • Abel looks solid. But GODDAMN his rekka chain damage got RAPED. Why did they do this? Why bother with a rekka chain that does maybe 11% damage total (9% for the initial punch, and 1% for the two follow ups - I’m NOT kidding!).

  • Blanka seems really good. Don’t ever jump at Blanka when he has full super or a stock of Ultra.

  • Chun-li seemed solid. Saw a couple nifty combos from JWong with her:

  1. Jumping Hp,HP target combo (knocks opponent down), juggle with Falcon Kick (in air, d+MK) x 3.

  2. c.lk, c.lk, EX100 Kicks, juggle with EX 100 kicks or EX Spinning Bird Kick. JWo also tried to tack on super/ultra afterwards, but it didn’t connect for more than a few hits. Might be corner only.

  • As I heard, there were a billion Kens, Ryus and Sagats. All seem pretty good. The only thing of note I saw was one guy doing a somewhat ghetto (but effective) combo with Ryu: Late anti-air jab DP that trades (which happens more often that it should), juggle with Ultra. Think of it as the less meter dependent version of DP->Focus Dash Cancel ->Ultra.

  • Didn’t see much of Dhalsim, Honda or Balrog. Guile and Vega got picked a couple times but the players weren’t that good, so they weren’t represented well.

  • As I noted, I played nothing but Bison and did pretty well with him using mostly straight SF2 tactics. Lots of Scissors Kick pressure (I didn’t get punished for a blocked LK/MK scissors kick after a c.LP, c.LP, c.MK string even once), tons of throws, and endless cross ups (j.MK is flawless cross up).

EX Scissors will go through projectiles, so that’s great. Psycho Crusher seems terrible, slow and very bad recovery. I barely used it, and I forgot to use the EX version. EX Stomp = WTF. He seems to have invincibility on start up or something, cause I was using that thing as a wake up and it didn’t get stopped once, and it beat damn near everything. ONCE it traded with Gief’s Lariet, but that’s it. It’s a knock down too, which is also good. The regular stomp is a bit nerfed though: not only does it not have the range that it used to (if opponent is at full screen and you try to stomp, you’ll land right in front of them; this also happens with his Devil Reverse from more than 3/4ths screen away - it’s as if Bison’s aerial moves are designed for a smaller playing field), but now Bison doesn’t turn around automatically if you fly behind them afterwards, so no more cross up Somersault Skulldiver, which makes me a sad panda. Devil Reverse is good, though you’ll actually have to be within 3/4ths of the screen away to actually be able to hit your opponent with the attack. I only used EX Devil Reverse once (by accident), so I know nothing about it aside from the fact that it hits twice.

Bison has a couple new attacks, I was surprised. His s.LP is rubbish: A slow sideways chop that looks like CvS1/2 Rugal’s s.LP and is just as slow. Close s.MK is now an ankle kick. And his vertical j.MP is some bizarre body press punch looking attack that has negative range. I hate it. He has Alpha Bison’s vertical j.HK and s.HK, which is okay I guess.

Finally, Bison has a new move I was unable to identify. I saw one of the other Bison players (only saw two other people pick Bison on Monday, and only one of them was any good) do some sort of aerial dive punch. How is this done? I don’t think it’s in his move list.

All in all, the game seems to be pretty good. Not flawless, but just what it needed to be:A BRAND NEW Street Fighter that plays good and looks fucking gorgeous. Let Capcom (continue to) hype this sucker up to hell for the console version, add those 8 additional characters that birdies have whispered to me will be there, and this game will make serious bank.

Sounds like I was the Blanka you played. If that’s the case I beat you when you tried Rufus and you beat me with Dictator. GGs, his scissors and stomp are really buff.

I too am a CF Bison player and have put 3-4 six win streaks with Bison. Justin took me out twice in nailbiting last pixel of life victories :frowning: Would have been nice to mirror match you. I was there Monday from like 6 to 11. Didn’t see any other Bison players. Been there every day since Friday.

http://www.myspace.com/javits thats me. Did you see me? or did I see you? did we play? lol.

About Bison I have to agree that his Psycho Crusher has been nerfed as it no longer goes thru at all and has poor recovery. Like any old school bison tactics it is really good against dashes and running moves. The damage is ok nothing too crazy. It does still do decent block damage and it’s actually pretty meaty. I’ve psycho crushed a few players that seemed to be trying reversal shoryus. EX psycho crusher on the other hand is still not safe on block but it’s good as a wake-up reversal cuz it seems to have invisibilty on start up and also it can absorb a non-ex fireball which I find is good against tiger shot spam from mid range. From far its not so good because the fireball slows the psycho crusher down just enough to let the opponent block. I don’t think that “dive punch” is a new move. It’s just his jumping fierce which looks very strangely animated and I can’t tell if/how it hits/trades. Standing MK is an excellent quick mid range poke and u can mix it up with spammed standing HK. if they block you’re safe. it trades with many attacks/moves and if they jump it smacks them on the way up. his standing fierce is what seems to be not so good. doesnt stop much from the air and the range sucks plus its not fast. His close fierce is good though. Decent damage and you can combo it into teleport ( I usually teleport back to get in EX stomp range but occasionally i teleport in their face then poke or throw ) Also the punch after stomp can be combo’d. Justin landed one and did c.lp,c.mp after. maybe he could have done psycho crusher or scissor kick after the c.mp too but he messed up i think. About scissor kick, it still has the same speed and pretty much the same priority but they nerfed the range compared with CvS 2 where u can almost always land full screen hk scissor kick. Overall, Bison(dictator) is excellent vs shotos ( only lost to 1 or 2 kens in about 35 games ) EX Stomp is not that safe anymore as it can be stopped with a well timed dp. Meaty EX stomp is what i like to use because it can land SOOOOOOO low. It looks almost like he’s standing on the floor lol, gets the opponent angry :slight_smile: So far my hardest match up is playing a good sagat because he can control space better than ever and i could never seem to jump in fast enough without getting tiger uppercut to the face. tiger knee cross-up when im down also messes up my charge at that last sec so be careful.I started learning how to play him and got a perfect on a decent sagat so hopefully I can keep it up. The key is to not jump in often as he will almost always tiger knee, hk, or tiger uppercut bison. You have to be patient and constantly jump straight up over tiger shots spam then try to get in a jump in when the sagat gets impatient or do c.HK slide to catch them by surprise.

GGs to all those who played today (Tuesday) Competition was fierce and again I had a hard time with Sagat. Darwin’s Sagat is amazing (DOMINICANS WERE ROLLING DEEP AT CF TODAY LOL INCLUDING ME). I heard he beat Long Island Joe’s sagat.

I was using dhalsim when I lost. Not sagat

:bluu:

What I’m really bothered about is Zangief though. There was a really good Zangief the other day when Ultima was there, and he destroyed me the first round with a few SPDs. Second round I turtled to hell for about 30 seconds on the clock and didn’t let him anywhere near me, and got him to about half life while I was untouched. He did one Ultra (which has zero damn start up) and got me down to the same. Ridiculous. And a really good Sagat player that went before me never got grabbed once, and still lost to him. Theres just something that doesn’t sit right with Gief IMO.

And damn, Hyuuga owned my Ryu for free last time I played. :sweat:

I’m about to start playing Dhalsim or something, most of you people are getting a bit too Shoto savvy. Plus it breaks the monotony I guess.